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Mirage 4000
« on: January 09, 2006, 05:13:38 pm »
The following dimension drawing was apparently scanned from the flight manual for the Dassault Mirage 4000.


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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2006, 01:17:07 pm »
http://fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/documents-docex/Iraq/Audio-transcripts/ISGQ-2003-M0008110_TRANS.pdf

Confirmation of Iraqi interest in the Mirage 4000, from recently released transcripts of a conversation with Saddam Hussein.
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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2006, 09:18:05 am »
According to le Fana de l'aviation, an Iraqi  delegation come to Istres flight test center on 6 December 1979. Jean Marie Saget made an impressive demo this day.
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Mirage 4000
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2007, 03:53:47 pm »
Hello Folks,

(my name is Alain Ratinaud and this is the first time I'm posting a topic, although I've been watching the forum for a long time)
Here are some drawings I made a long time ago on the Mirage 4000, enjoy!
- 1 3 view plan of the prototype in white blue and red colors
- 1 profil in gray
- 1 profil in sand colors
- 1 possible profile of Arabian Saudi

Regards
Alain

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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2007, 04:03:55 pm »
Alain Ratinaud?, You made that "Mirage Mach3" for LeFana (last March or April issue I think)?

Wellcome on board and thanks a lot for this beautiful drawings :)

Antonio

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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #5 on: September 02, 2007, 04:18:46 pm »
Oh gosh, you found me!
Yes, some of my work have been published in le Fana de l'Aviation, and also in Air Power Magazine, for this nice M4000.
I thank you for welcoming me, cheers!
For the main drawing I posted, I used many pictures taken on the reconditioned prototype esposed at Le Bourget. So I guess it is quite accurate. The other profiles were made thanks to pictures we got from Dassault and other sources.
I will share other parts of my work, it's always good to share.
As for the Mirage Mach 3, it's still on the workbench...

Regards
Alain


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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #6 on: September 02, 2007, 04:28:11 pm »
Alain, thank you very much for sharing this beautiful stuff! I remember your works in Air Power magazine - your profiles are really looks 'alive'.
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stealth, more than a few of them truly technically ignorant and proud of it." Sherm Mullin, Skunk Works

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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2007, 04:44:01 pm »
thank you flateric!
Air Power Magazine is a terrific magazine and I'd like to work with them again.
I'm pretty satisfied having found my own style... after all, everything is matter of style.

Regards
Alain


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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #8 on: September 02, 2007, 05:40:52 pm »
So. . .do you have any info on the Mach 3 Mirage project that you can share?  :)
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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #9 on: September 02, 2007, 11:40:08 pm »
Bon jour et bienvenu dans le Forum, Alain Ratinaud  ;D

Cool drawings !

in near Future i Want open new Thread about Ringwings (french SNECMA C450 "Coléoptère") from BTZ
You got some Info and Drawings ???
« Last Edit: September 02, 2007, 11:45:19 pm by Michel Van »
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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2007, 12:02:20 am »
Scott, Alexis Rocher has written an article on the Mach 3 Mirage for publishing before Christmas in Fana.
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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #11 on: September 03, 2007, 01:33:58 am »
Welcome! We have now la fine fleur of the french writers and designers here  ;D

Seriously, Alanqua and Mirage 4000 will help linking this forum to Le Fana de l'aviation magazine. And this is precious...
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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #12 on: September 03, 2007, 12:14:59 pm »
Alanqua !!!!! :D
You ? here !!! ;D

Let me introduce my old friend, Alanqua !!!!!  :)

Before Dassault Mach3/Mach 4 fighters programs, the SO 4060. 8 pages on the story of this "French F-4 Phantom" ... with Alanqua drawings ...

Alanqua, could you publish here your "what if" ... (I think to the S67)


Carry on Alanqua !!!!  8)

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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #13 on: September 04, 2007, 01:29:17 am »
 Alanqua's SO-4060 profiles...  something to be seen...
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Re: Mirage 4000
« Reply #14 on: September 04, 2007, 10:26:25 am »
Yes, it's on the workbench too.
But I cannot talk too much on what is not yet published.
If you want more information, my friend Mirage 4000 is the decision maker and can talk about it (he is the author of the articles, I'm the illustrator).

Regards
alain