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Offline Michel Van

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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2017, 11:59:36 am »
here you tube videos about Vinci engine testing

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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2018, 09:38:43 am »
France, Germany studying reusability with a subscale flyback booster

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WASHINGTON — Reusable rocketry in Europe took a step forward last year with a funding boost for Prometheus, a program meant to develop a reusable engine manufacturable at one-tenth the cost of the Ariane 5’s first-stage liquid engine. A parallel effort dubbed Callisto could test a European ability to launch, return and refly a rocket from the Guiana Space Centre in South America.

The French and German space agencies (CNES and DLR, respectively) have for the past two years collaborated on a scaled-down rocket that would allow Europe to practice different aspects of recovery and reuse. Callisto’s first flight is planned for 2020.

Callisto officials said the goal of the program is not to create a new vehicle in 2020 — the Ariane 6 is scheduled to debut that same year — but to establish a base of knowledge for future launch vehicles that could, maybe, be reusable.

http://spacenews.com/france-germany-studying-reusability-with-a-subscale-flyback-booster/

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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2018, 08:27:19 am »
The beginning of the end
the last order for Ten Ariane 5 rockets was made
There will be 23 Launches of Ariane 5 to year 2021.
2020 Ariane 6 makes it Test and Qualification flights to Replace the Ariane 5 in 2021/22
 
CNES progress report


Next Ariane 6 it show also footage on CALLISTO a suborbital reusable demonstrator.
and PROMETHEUS the Reusable Rocket engines that now got now full ESA funding.

more on Callisto and prometheus (audio)


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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2018, 09:40:18 am »
So long, Ariane 5. We will miss you.
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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2018, 10:29:51 am »
From todays visit to the ILA airshow, the planned timeline for the ESA/Ariane reusable launch systems,
shown with 5 models :
It takes a long time, before all mistakes are made ...

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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2018, 01:47:34 pm »
thanks for picture Jemiba

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How nice
a re-usable sounding rocket
a clone of Falcon 9 first stage for 2021
a X-15 Clone for 2027
a re-animated old concept of 1985 as Ariane 7 for 2035
a Two stage re-usable Ariane 8 for the year 2045...


...On moment, Year 2045 ?
Let me see if all went right to then, your future look like that:
SpaceX and Blue Origin Dominate  the Launch Market and intercontinental ballistic transport market
and just completed there Infrastructure build-up on Moon and Mars 
Follow by China and India re-usable rockets follow space effort of Brazil, Ethiopia, Dubai, Philippines   
NASA astronauts are now backseat drivers, while virgin galactic, ULA, Roscosmos and ESA & Co are memories

Poor ESA again its Conservatism is its downfall...

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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2018, 03:57:24 pm »
thanks for picture Jemiba

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How nice
a re-usable sounding rocket
a clone of Falcon 9 first stage for 2021
a X-15 Clone for 2027
a re-animated old concept of 1985 as Ariane 7 for 2035
a Two stage re-usable Ariane 8 for the year 2045...


...On moment, Year 2045 ?
Let me see if all went right to then, your future look like that:
SpaceX and Blue Origin Dominate  the Launch Market and intercontinental ballistic transport market
and just completed there Infrastructure build-up on Moon and Mars 
Follow by China and India re-usable rockets follow space effort of Brazil, Ethiopia, Dubai, Philippines   
NASA astronauts are now backseat drivers, while virgin galactic, ULA, Roscosmos and ESA & Co are memories

Poor ESA again its Conservatism is its downfall...

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At Mach 10 top speed, the RLV-Demo is no X-15 clone, but rather somewhat of a copy of the DARPA XS-1/XSP program, see https://www.darpa.mil/program/experimental-space-plane, with some X-37-ish aerodynamics thrown in. I am mystified though why the winged booster of the Semi-RLV is shown to be so much smaller that the geometrically almost identical one of the Spaceliner - there could be a real growth path for introducing full reusability over time by a staggered development approach. I fully agree however that at the shown time frames the exercise would be pretty pointless market wise.

Martin
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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #22 on: July 21, 2018, 01:19:16 am »
progress Report
ESA has tested successful the new Solids P120C for Ariane 6 and Vega-C rocket


how it's made
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Re: ESA Ariane 6
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2018, 12:19:58 pm »
current state of launch pad
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