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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #180 on: June 13, 2017, 08:24:48 am »
Hesham - judging from the "Willis" [Hawkins] and "Kelly" [Johnson] inscription, I'd say that this is a "CL-1400" or "L-1400" alternate point design for A-X from Lockheed.  I should also point out that I don't have the original item, just the .jpg.

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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #181 on: June 13, 2017, 08:28:22 am »
Hesham - judging from the "Willis" [Hawkins] and "Kelly" [Johnson] inscription, I'd say that this is a "CL-1400" or "L-1400" alternate point design for A-X from Lockheed.  I should also point out that I don't have the original item, just the .jpg.

OK and thank you.

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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #182 on: June 13, 2017, 03:44:48 pm »
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Hesham - judging from the "Willis" [Hawkins] and "Kelly" [Johnson] inscription, I'd say that this is a "CL-1400" or "L-1400" alternate point design for A-X from Lockheed.

Ok, looking at picture on a larger PC screen (as opposed to mobile phone screen), the picture is much more relevant - and much more intriguing aim9xray! :o

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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #183 on: June 17, 2017, 03:41:14 am »
Hello,
Thanks to many of you for your compliments about my drawings.
I wanted to do them in more details and with colored plans and nice effects, but I did not have the time.
Now that this topic has emerged, my desire to depict those Lockheed AX projects is increasing. I hope to find time (and willingness) to start this. Maybe I could suggest this to Le Fana de l'Aviation!
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Alain

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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #185 on: September 13, 2017, 09:55:49 am »
Hi All -

Love it when we get a new donation at the Museum as you never know what you'll find.  A donation yesterday had artwork for the McAir design and an interesting memo about McAir assisting, (well, at least discussing) with Boeing-Vertol on their A-X design.  McAir never really put in much effort on the proposal so seeing this memo is interesting.  File size is too big - will see if Overscan can add it to this thread.

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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #186 on: September 13, 2017, 10:57:10 am »
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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #187 on: September 16, 2017, 01:13:54 am »
Going by that fantastic McAir artwork, Mark, I must say I'm impressed by it's rugged workman-like landing gear!

Thank's for sharing mate!

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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #188 on: September 16, 2017, 04:06:46 am »
Mark's memo is attached as PDF.

Note Boeing had 2 teams on this:

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Boeing (Seattle) management discontinued the West Coast A-X effort using [turbo]fans on 16 July, and expressed confidence in Vertol's A-X configuration.
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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #189 on: September 16, 2017, 10:06:00 am »
Nice! ;)
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Re: AX Contenders (alternatives to the Fairchild A-10 Thunderbolt II)
« Reply #190 on: September 16, 2017, 02:07:15 pm »
McAir never really put in much effort on the proposal so seeing this memo is interesting.

Enjoy the Day!  Mark

McAir put in effort on the 1967 concept formulation study contract but not for the 1970 AX RFP (probably too busy on FX).
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