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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2016, 01:41:18 am »
Does anyone know if there is a model 1600 series designation from approximately 1988? If so, it would explain the joined-wing Boeing EX Surveillance Concept of 1993.

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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2016, 01:50:24 am »
Does anyone know if there is a model 1600 series designation from approximately 1988? If so, it would explain the joined-wing Boeing EX Surveillance Concept of 1993.

I do not know of any numbers in the 1600+ range but these surely must have existed.
It's very difficult to understand how Boeing Model Numbers work beyond #1000, but one thing for sure is that they are not allocated chronologically. For instance, the 1991 HSCT studies were given Model Number "1080", while the 1993 studies seem to have received the number "1873". So if you've seen a 1600+ designation for the EX program, it could be genuine... Do you have a source? A reference?

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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2016, 03:55:20 am »
Sorry no source, only speculation based purely on the code painted on the official Boeing EX scale model - 160137, assuming Model 1601 dash 37. It's not uncommon for a company artist or model maker to include a genuine reference to the aircraft by mistake example: Northrop N336-12 VATOL in 1978 illustration . In regards to Boeing number system it would be up to the 1600's by 1990, and there are many examples of non sequential codes such as wide bodied transports in the 1000 series from 1978 and different aircraft design programs clustered in a non-common series example: Model 985 microfighter series of 1973 that also later included much larger tactical fighter design series from 1982.
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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #93 on: April 04, 2017, 11:42:02 am »
Any hints of possible model numbers for

- Bird of Prey (and a McDD model number for the origin of this aircraft)
- T-X contender (together with Saab)

?

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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #94 on: August 27, 2018, 12:52:08 pm »
From "American Secret Projects: Bombers" Page 12

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The starting point for Boeing's jet bomber studies was the Model 413 from the autumn of 1943, which would have been a response to the initial request for studies made in June of that year

That's the B-47 oldest ancestor...anybody has a picture of this design?

Thanks in advance,

Antonio

Habermehl & Hopkins' new book on B-47 shows a simple three-view of Model 413 - see page 11 top.

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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #95 on: November 27, 2018, 08:09:46 am »
Just found old photocopy from old book about Boeing company (printed pror the 2000, couldn't remember any other details about edition).
Here is the Boeing's designation list from the book - see attachement.

Some new designations, that I didn't found in this thread:
883 - Fresh One Hydrofoil for US Navy
928 - PGH-2 Hydrofoil for US Navy
939 - Lunar Orbiter for NASA
946 - Burner II for USAF
« Last Edit: November 28, 2018, 05:21:54 am by Silencer1 »

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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #96 on: November 28, 2018, 05:00:39 am »
Just found old photocopy from old book about Boeing company (printed pror the 2000, couldn't remember any other details about edition).

Some new designations, that I didn't found in this thread:
883 - Fresh One Hydrofoil for US Navy
928 PGH-2 Hydrofoil for US Navy
939 Lunar Orbiter for NASA
946 Burner II for USAF

What was it my dear Silencer.

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Re: Boeing Model Designations
« Reply #97 on: November 28, 2018, 05:23:48 am »
Hello, hesham!

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What was it my dear Silencer.

The designations of Boeing-built items, that previously didn't listed in this thread.
Actually, it could be found in another topics of this forum, for example, in Naval section.
« Last Edit: November 29, 2018, 12:10:31 am by Silencer1 »