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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #45 on: December 15, 2008, 09:28:25 am »
Isn't that design, shown in the paper, the one illustrated in the first two pics on page one of your post in this thread, as is shown on the Wings cover?

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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #46 on: December 15, 2008, 09:33:27 am »
No, that one with high-mounted canards, 'classic' Syd Mead's ATF
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #47 on: October 02, 2009, 10:40:08 pm »
Renamed topic to remove typo :)
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #48 on: October 03, 2009, 10:49:25 am »
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #49 on: February 16, 2010, 03:43:54 pm »
An artist's impression identified as a Lockheed ATF contender released in 1985 shows a chined nose similar to the SR-71, a fairly orthodox delta wing with canard foreplanes, and vectoring engine nozzles.

Source: Richardson, Doug. Stealth Warplanes Salamander Books Ltd. 2001.

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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #50 on: February 16, 2010, 04:50:15 pm »
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1165.msg10545.html#msg10545
Stuff is claimed to be - of course - F-22. Interesting if this a pure speculation or another Lockheed's(?) desinformation CGIs

Confirmed as 'official' Lockheed speculation
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #51 on: February 16, 2010, 04:54:58 pm »
Artist's impression of Advanced Tactical Fighter by Attila Hejja appearing in December 1987 issue of Popular Mechanics.

Source: Cole, Tim. "Airpower 2000" Popular Mechanics December 1987 p. 72.
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #52 on: February 20, 2010, 08:04:04 am »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Tactical_Fighter

there are also diagram of concept aircraft submitted by aircraft corporations!
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2015, 07:28:51 am »
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2015, 07:35:27 am »
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As I know from this period,that was a mock-up actually built ?.

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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2015, 10:19:52 am »
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Such image payed surely something to the Firefox movie....

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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2015, 10:22:15 am »
Hi,
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #57 on: October 12, 2018, 02:10:45 pm »
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2018, 09:56:05 am »
I found this on the DVIC site, on the first page of a search on 'ATF'. I haven't seen this design before; does anyone have more information?

This from a circa 1982 or 1983 publication of Popular Science. It was a USAF "design" intended to portray the concepts of the new fighter, namely 2D thrust vectoring, LO inlets, supercruise aerodynamics (then though needed to be tailless), and internal weapons.

If you actually look at, it is basically the F-22 minus the tail, right down to the one piece canopy. Lockmart gave the USAF exactly what they wanted.
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Re: ATF: speculation and disinformation from the 1980s
« Reply #59 on: Today at 07:38:11 am »
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