Various Messerschmitt projects

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any factory drawing for the me P1099?
https://www.google.fr/search?q=messerschmitt+me+P1099&num=20&safe=active&rlz=1C1AOHY_frFR713FR713&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjzlM6EqcHYAhXEalAKHa2hBm8Q_AUICigB&biw=1680&bih=935
 
Also from Aero Journal 8-9 2008;

it's the first time to hear about Me P.1093,what was it ?.
 

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The last posts, containing designations of projects unrelated to each other, were split and moved
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,29917.msg322764.html#msg322764

Please, attend to the revised guidelines ( https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1385.msg321987.html#msg321987 )

I'm trying to clean up this thread by splitting and moving related designs, first example is the Bf/Me 109 /
Bv 155 thread, but this will take quite a while.
If you want to add info to a design shown in this thread, please start a dedicated thread and if you could
point to posts already mentioning this design, I'll be grateful.

And please, no more posts, that contain information to several unrelated designs ! I'll try to add cross
references, but this is suboptimal ... and even more costly with regards to time and effort!
 
The Messerschmitt P.1110 (Me P.1110) was a design for a single-seat, high-altitude interceptor, prepared for the German Luftwaffe by the Messerschmitt aircraft manufacturing company, under the Emergency Fighter Program during the last months of World War II.As part of the Emergency Fighter Program (German: Jägernotprogramm), at the beginning of 1945, a programme was launched by the OKL for a new generation of fighter/interceptor aircraft in order to replace the He 162 Volksjäger. The new aircraft was intended to have superior performance, in order to deal with high-altitude threats such as the B-29 Superfortress.Messerschmitt designed a number of different high-altitude fighter projects which were submitted in February 1945. One of the designs, the Me P.1110 Ente (Duck), had a 40° wing sweep and annular air intakes in front of the wing root (similar to those on the post-war North American YF-93), feeding a single Heinkel HeS 011A jet engine; the annular intakes, while flowing four percent less air, would produce fifteen percent less drag than a single nose intake.[1] The aircraft was to be armed with three MK 108 cannon in the nose, plus perhaps two more in the 40°-swept wings. There was also a proposed butterfly tail variant. Projected maximum speed was 1,015 km/h (631 mph; 548 kn).
The project would be soon dropped in favor of the other two more conventional designs, but the Junkers EF 128 was chosen as the official winner of the competition and none of the Messerschmitt designs reached the prototype stage.the designs brought forward by other German aircraft makers were the Heinkel P.1078, the Focke-Wulf Ta 183 and the Blohm & Voss P 212.A further development, the P.1111, with wing root intakes (a concept later adopted by the Republic RF-84F Thunderflash and F-105 Thunderchief) to overcome the power losses and 45° sweep, was prepared in January 1945 but never built. with fully swept wings, this plane could have fully been the first airplane to break the sound barrier in a shallow dive. but due to the end of war, this very frighting airplane was never built. but if the me p.1106 would have been produced? well for one it would have been revourlarntroay, with it being able to break the sound barrier, every allied aircraft would have been vunerable, with it most likley having ammuniation. its a great thing this plane does not exist.
 

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i got the information from wikipeida, linked the websites that helped me draw to this concliusion
 
Without an all-flying tail, a fuselage designed to the area rule, air inlets designed to the NACA or equivalent rules for supersonic flow, and a lot more engine, it wasn't happening.
 
I'm curious. Has the existence of a 'Jägernotprogramm' ever been confirmed by a contemporary document?
 
annular air intakes in front of the wing root (similar to those on the post-war North American YF-93)

No, the Me P1110 doesn't have similar intakes.

The intakes on the YF-93 are designed by the NACA rule on supersonic ducts.

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You can clearly see the molding of the inlet ramp that follows this pattern, necessary to slow the air to subsonic before entry. Shock cones on late 1950's fighters did the same thing. A plain inlet will not allow sustained supersonic flight as the shock cone and air pressure build up at the lip of the inlet will end up cutting air to the engine and result in a compressor stall.

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Another problem is the use of the HeS 011 engine. It uses a centrifugal first stage compressor. Centrifugal jet engines proved all but incapable of being used on supersonic aircraft.
 
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but if the me p.1106 would have been produced? well for one it would have been revourlarntroay, with it being able to break the sound barrier
You are making an assumption that Germans would be able to get it work. Which is highly doubtful. It would require a lot of fundamental scientific research, and Nazi were notoriously bad in doing anything that did not suppose to provide immediate result.
 
This thread started as a summary of Wikipedia articles, which is not bad per se, but in the field of
aviation, and especially about German late WWII projects, Wiki shouldn't be regarded as a reliable
source, and at least always backed up with other sources (see point 13 of the forum rules).
Though abknowledging the effort, I was a bit baffled, as under the topic "Me P.1106", it starts with
a detailed description of the P.1110, and both projects already were mentioned in other threads.
I merged this thread with one of the older ones, and I would recommend further posts only, if really
new information can be brought up.
And about this theme, I would second Dilandu's last post here, and emphasize, that for most/many
of those late German WWII projects any chance for realisation actually was far away.
 
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