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Messerschmitt Courier (turbojet fighter project)

kiradog

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Does anyone have any information on a late-war German scissor-wing project titled Messerschmitt Courier (turbojet project).
This design is similar to the Messerschmitt P.1108. I have a very simple resin kit by Part Time Models and was looking for more information to detail the kit - i.e - how was landng gear suppose to attach. Thanx in advance.

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Please look here "Messerschmitt Courier"
http://www.ninfinger.org/~sven/models/parttime/72courier.html
 

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AFAIK, the project, which is called here "Courier" was a fixed wing aircraft,
whereas the P.1109 had variable geometry. Last year Mike Hirschberg published
an AIAA paper with the title "A Summary Of A Half-Century of Oblique Wing Research",
where he mentioned the the P.1109 and the "Courier", too. For the P.1109 there
were at least two variants proposed, one with a single wing, the other with scissor
wings. These designs are designated as P.1101/XYIII-108 in other sources.
About the "Courier" there are no further informations, there was just a line drawing
with the outlines and the positions of the wheels. To my opinion, not even the origin
of this desgn is clear, not to mention the role.
 

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It sound a bit strange that a German- late WWII project- haves an
English name 'Courier' -- Kurier in German
 

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I've always assumed that with the name like "Kurier"/"Courier" & its fuselage door & windows it was more of an intended transport a/c rather than a combat type.



lark said:
It sound a bit strange that a German- late WWII project- haves an
English name 'Courier' -- Kurier in German
 

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Agree with you, lark. VERY strange! It was 'normality' (an unwritten law) in those days to avoid non-German words (e.g. such stupid neologisms like 'Windloch'/'wind hole' for 'Fenster'/'window' due to its latin origin) ::) ...
 

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In french the translaton for "Kurier" would be "courrier", I think. So we probably just
have a kind of description, not a real designation and AFAIK the source of this design
is said to come from french documents about Messerschmitt projects. And to me, the
layout of the fuselage looks french .. just have a look at the Latécoère 200 torpedo
bomber project.
Maybe the drawing of this "project" was just based on descriptions of a Messerschmitt
design with fixed scissors wings. We could start a contest, would it would have look like,
if drawn by a british, an american or a russian designer ... ;)
 

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I was just wondering about the origins of the design.. ;)
 
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