US Navy Type Spec 146: rivals to the P-3 Orion

[Pioneer]

Does anyone have any information, design designations, drawings and specifications on the designs submitted in the 1958 US Navy competition, that lead to the Lockheed P-3A Orion Anti-Submarine/Maritime Patrol Aircraft being declared winner?

Regards
Pioneer

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Hmmm. 4 years on, can we answer this question? Renamed topic to include relevant Type Spec.

 

[lark]

"Code One" magazine - August 2012 mentions
contenders from Martin and Consolidated in the competition.
No more info in the article I think...

 

[fightingirish]

"Code One" magazine - August 2012 mentions
contenders from Martin and Consolidated in the competition.
No more info in the article I think...

[...]
The P-3 came about as a response to Navy Type Specification #146 issued in 1957 for a new land-based antisubmarine warfare, or ASW, aircraft to replace the Lockheed P2V Neptune land-based maritime patrol aircraft and the Martin P5M Marlin flying boat. Very specific requirements pertaining to delivery schedule and cost constraints dictated the need for adapting an off-the-shelf aircraft design for the maritime patrol mission.
The competitors were Martin, Consolidated, and Lockheed, three companies that had been building patrol aircraft for the Navy for more than three decades at that point. The French Atlantique, developed with the help of US Navy funds, did not meet the stated range requirement and was eliminated from the competition.[...]

Source: Code One Magazine - Golden Orion By Jeff Rhodes Posted 22 August 2012

 

[Pioneer]

Wow has it been four years since I posted this question to the forum

Hey nice find fightingirish and lark!!
Interesting read!

Thanks also to Paul for your revisiting the topic! It paid off!!


Regards
Pioneer

 

[lark]

My pleasure Pioneer

 

[LowObservable]

Friedman, in "Network Centric Warfare", describes the Orion's role as an interceptor, to exploit the revolutionary capabilities of SOSUS. Hence, I suspect, the requirement for a higher efficient cruising speed than the P2V.

The interesting question is which off-the-shelf platforms Martin and Convair had to work with. A Super Mercator? A CV-880 ASW?

http://www.usni.org/store/books/history/network-centric-warfare

http://www.navy.mil/navydata/cno/n87/usw/issue_25/sosus.htm

 

[Mark Nankivil]

I'm fairly sure that Convair proposed the P6Y and Martin the P7M .

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[Archibald]

Per lack of a better thread... looking for a
P-3C nose-mounted camera called KA-74.
...
Asking that because it was also flown... onboard Apollo 13 ( yes, that one) and Apollo 14.
Called the Lunar Topographic Camera it sat on an astronaut seat and was bolted to the hatch window, looking through it.

 

[Fluff]

Per lack of a better thread... looking for a
P-3C nose-mounted camera called KA-74.
...
Asking that because it was also flown... onboard Apollo 13 ( yes, that one) and Apollo 14.
Called the Lunar Topographic Camera it sat on an astronaut seat and was bolted to the hatch window, looking through it.

The Cameras of Apollo

Anything here?

 

[Fluff]

Apollo 14: Hycon KA-7A camera photo scans - collectSPACE: Messages

Source for space history, space artifacts, and space memorabilia. Learn where astronauts will appear, browse collecting guides, and read original space history-related daily reports.

www.collectspace.com

 

[Archibald]

Thank you ! Note they made a mistake calling it KA-7.