US Bombers

[Ian5]

Hi may anyone have more information on the boeing model 363

It was a six-engine twin-boom high altitude heavy bomber Project with pusher engines,intended
to compete Consolidated B-36,and maybe that was its drawing.

Hi hesham thank you for responding is there any other drawings or specifications or a illustration where the gunner positions were

 

[hesham]

Welcome Ian,

and unfortunately there was nothing known,except it had a wing span 270 feet.

 

[Ian5]

Welcome Ian,

and unfortunately there was nothing known,except it had a wing span 270 feet.

Dear hesham thank you very much for responding and giving me the only information they had on this aircraft

 

[ACResearcher]

Actually, there is a LOT of information about the Model 363 if you're willing to do the legwork and live close enough to the appropriate archive/know who to talk to.

I'm going to give a shot at posting a two-page synopsis of the project below. I have much more, but I'm saving it for a future book project.

I hope this is helpful and enjoyable. I have data on literally dozens of Boeing large bomber projects just before and during WWII. Please do not expect me to post much of it as I AM planning to put it and much more in a future title.

Respectfully submitted,

AlanG

 

[Ian5]

Actually, there is a LOT of information about the Model 363 if you're willing to do the legwork and live close enough to the appropriate archive/know who to talk to.

I'm going to give a shot at posting a two-page synopsis of the project below. I have much more, but I'm saving it for a future book project.

I hope this is helpful and enjoyable. I have data on literally dozens of Boeing large bomber projects just before and during WWII. Please do not expect me to post much of it as I AM planning to put it and much more in a future title.

Respectfully submitted,

AlanG

Wow this is really generous of you to share this information by any chance can you tell me how much the book cost because i am very interested of purchasing if it is for sale. By any chance are there any other illustrations you don't have to share it if you don't want to i was just curious cannot thank you enough

 

[Ian5]

By any chance Does anybody have the exact name of this plane

 

[Arjen]

I can't give you its name, unfortunately. Your image appears in Convair Advanced Designs - Secret Projects from San Diego 1923-1962 by Robert E Bradley, Specialty Press 2010.
It shows a 1942 alternative all-wing design, from Consolidated itself, to the B-36. A conventional layout was chosen for the B-36, as Consolidated was worried about the all-wing's longitudinal control.

 

[PlanesPictures]

It is in front

 

[hesham]

By any chance Does anybody have the exact name of this plane

Dear Ian,

here it's.

 

[Ian5]

Actually, there is a LOT of information about the Model 363 if you're willing to do the legwork and live close enough to the appropriate archive/know who to talk to.

I'm going to give a shot at posting a two-page synopsis of the project below. I have much more, but I'm saving it for a future book project.

I hope this is helpful and enjoyable. I have data on literally dozens of Boeing large bomber projects just before and during WWII. Please do not expect me to post much of it as I AM planning to put it and much more in a future title.

Respectfully submitted,

AlanG

By the way thank you very much again for the documents my project With the 50 other people is going very smoothly now

 

[Ian5]

By any chance Does anybody have the exact name of this plane

Dear Ian,

here it's.

Dear hesham thank you very much for this article but are you sure there isn't a model number or anything thank you very much

 

[Ian5]

I can't give you its name, unfortunately. Your image appears in Convair Advanced Designs - Secret Projects from San Diego 1923-1962 by Robert E Bradley, Specialty Press 2010.
It shows a 1942 alternative all-wing design, from Consolidated itself, to the B-36. A conventional layout was chosen for the B-36, as Consolidated was worried about the all-wing's longitudinal control.

Thank you for responding thank you for telling me what book this image is from i will look into that book more thank you very much

 

[ACResearcher]

Hesham.....your source for that page of information???

 

[ACResearcher]

Ian, that information is from my files on the Model 363. The book is "in preparation", which is a nice way of saying it will be out sometime within my remaining lifetime.

AlanG

 

[Dagger]

Hesham.....your source for that page of information???

It's from the above mentioned Convair Advanced Designs book by Bradley.

 

[Arjen]

I would not rule out the possibility that AlanG(riffith) is Bradley's source for the image - although Bradley's book is where I saw it first. Hesham's image definitely is from Bradley's book.

 

[hesham]

Dear hesham thank you very much for this article but are you sure there isn't a model number or anything thank you very much

Dear Ian,yes there wasn't.

 

[sienar]

Boeing 299-G, type block also says "modified model B-17-B"
Dated March 11 1938

 

[Sherman Tank]

Obviously modified with a view towards pressurizing the fuselage.

 

[ACResearcher]

Sherman, while I haven't bothered yet to look up the aircraft specs on the 299-G, I'm not convinced the modification had anything to do with pressurization. The primary reasons for this are the gun positions, all of which would be open to one degree or another to the outside atmosphere. It is possible that the pilot's compartment might be pressurized, but that would seem to conflict with the structure of the rest of the aircraft.

When I get around to looking up the specs I'll post them here.

AlanG

 

[taildragger]

Sherman, while I haven't bothered yet to look up the aircraft specs on the 299-G, I'm not convinced the modification had anything to do with pressurization. The primary reasons for this are the gun positions, all of which would be open to one degree or another to the outside atmosphere. It is possible that the pilot's compartment might be pressurized, but that would seem to conflict with the structure of the rest of the aircraft.

When I get around to looking up the specs I'll post them here.

AlanG

I can't think of any reason other than pressurization for adopting a round fuselage cross-section. Perhaps pressurization was thought to enable missions to be flown at altitudes beyond the reach of interceptors and the blisters are just for observers.

 

[Arjen]

The Heinkel He 111 had a round fuselage cross-section. Pressurization was never considered for that aircraft. DH Mosquito, same story. DC-3...

 

[iverson]

The fuselage looks a lot like that of the Boeing 307, the pressurized airliner derivative of the B-17.

 

[aim9xray]

Hmmmm. I also noticed that the 299-G has a mid-fuselage wing and tricycle landing gear.

 

[Sherman Tank]

Sherman, while I haven't bothered yet to look up the aircraft specs on the 299-G, I'm not convinced the modification had anything to do with pressurization. The primary reasons for this are the gun positions, all of which would be open to one degree or another to the outside atmosphere. It is possible that the pilot's compartment might be pressurized, but that would seem to conflict with the structure of the rest of the aircraft.

When I get around to looking up the specs I'll post them here.

AlanG

You may very well be right. I might be conflating the 299-G with a later proposal for a pressurized B-17 variant because they look broadly similar.

 

[hesham]

From Flying magazine 1941-1,

Douglas XB-18 Model in early shape.

 

[Antonio]

March 2021 documents released at Retromechanix:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GIvU-SKILs


USAAC Materiel Division Design No. 361 Bomber Study - Wind tunnel report dating from September 11, 1941 summarizing tests of a 1/40 scale model of the Materiel Division Design No. 361, an internal USAAC study for a large twin boom four-engine heavy bomber. A relatively well known artist's impression of this concept has been circulating for several years and can be found on the Secret Projects Forum, where it is incorrectly labeled as the Martin 145B. This PDF is 10 pages long with 5 photos of the wind tunnel model; unfortunately, the general arrangement drawings of the design referenced in the report were missing from the files at NARA.

Selected Douglas Bomber Studies of WW II - Three-view drawings of the Douglas Models 332F, 371, 413 and 423 medium and heavy bomber projects of World War II.

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[hesham]

From Flying magazine 1945-5,

a preliminary drawing to early Consolidated B-24 Bomber.

 

[hesham]

From Flying magazine 1945-7.