Turkish engines, power packs and propulsion projects

[snne]

May I hint that Ukraine has still some MIG-29 with probably Klimov RD-33 engines (18,000 to 20,000 lbf).
If you think about the Ukrainian pre-war turbofan jet engine knowledge and the good Baykar -Ukraine relations, I would bet on a different knowledge transfer scenario (at least for the base).

Almost all of them immigrated to Central European countries... And Baykar's relations with Motor Sich isn't as good as people think anyway...

In the meanwhile, Baykar has gained notoriety for poaching talent from companies engaged in critical NatSec projects...

 

[Combat-Master]

I truly hope they won't resort to stealing talent from other key players (as is their usual practice), since the talent base for this in Turkey is finite.

They can't just jump from designing piston engines to 90 kN-class turbofans. I understand this won't happen overnight, and that they're developing a lower-thrust turbofan for Kizilelma as an intermediate step, but they're still taking baby steps. Baykar hasn't yet established the necessary human capital or infrastructure in-house, so they'll have to source these from somewhere.

That's silly way of thinking, as long as the talent remains in Turkey I don't see any issues with that!

People need to remind themselves, that GE Aerospace’s 46.2% ownership in TEI can potentially limit or influence TEI’s independent strategic decisions, particularly in sensitive areas like indigenous engine development. So far we haven't seen those strings being pulled, but, it's not to say it won't be in the future.

Baykar with zero foreign stakeholders is the best foot forward for domestic development with minimal external influence, migrating TEIs engineers there would be beneficial, not to the counter!

Anyway, a lot of the material developments which are the most important part of a jet engine, were made by state owned scientific institutes, so not owned by those companies.

 

[Waterballoon]

May I hint that Ukraine has still some MIG-29 with probably Klimov RD-33 engines (18,000 to 20,000 lbf).
If you think about the Ukrainian pre-war turbofan jet engine knowledge and the good Baykar -Ukraine relations, I would bet on a different knowledge transfer scenario (at least for the base).
Soo, I'm betting on an engine with 20,000 lbf, a length of ca. 4.20m and a service life of around 4,000 hours. Lets wait and see.

Edit: Thinking a bit more about this Baykar jet engine, it could also be used as a lever to get GE-404 engines for armed Hurjets.

RD-33 seems far fetched but Baykar ties with Ivchenko-Progress could see a revival of the AI9500. I don't rule out a new design either. The Turks are ambitious and experienced enough to design a military turbofan. Baykar bought themselves a VIM casting machine for turbine blades.