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T-14 Armata - new gen Russian tank

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I reworked the T-14 Armata article on wikipedia.


The version before had crude translations from Russian sources, was misleading and used many wrong expressions.

I invite you guys to further refine it.
I wasn't sure which of the two machineguns was coaxially installed with the turret roof sensor, for example.
The missile launch by main gun was previously presented as if it was a novelty; I added that this was introduced by the Soviets already, but didn't remember by which tank exactly and in which year.


BTW, I think at least the rooftop radar is almost certainly a special kit, not to be installed on all tanks. Maybe one per company. Its claimed range of up to 100 km is very questionable, but I lack sources to refute it.
 

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covert_shores said:
Yes gun fired missiles are normal for russian tanks since, well at least the 1980s (without looking it up)
It was introduced on the T-64 IIRC but it was only the T-80 which it was in widespread use.
 

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9M112 Kobra entered service on the T-64B in 1976. 39 years ago. 1978, T-80B.
 

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Jane's analysis

http://www.janes.com/article/51469/russia-s-armour-revolution
 

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I did some calculations from this picture, using 695cm for the length of the recovery vehicle.

Hull length of 864cm (734cm excluding overhangs)
Height of 168cm to hull roof and 263cm to turret roof

The gun is elevated at 9 degrees and the distance between the muzzle and turret ring is about 695cm. For comparison, 2A46M is 668cm long (including the room for recoil). So either this vehicle is equipped with 2A46M, or 2A82 uses the same barrel as 2A46, but with one-piece ammunition.
 

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AdamF said:
I did some calculations from this picture, using 695cm for the length of the recovery vehicle.

Hull length of 864cm (734cm excluding overhangs)
Height of 168cm to hull roof and 263cm to turret roof

The gun is elevated at 9 degrees and the distance between the muzzle and turret ring is about 695cm. For comparison, 2A46M is 668cm long (including the room for recoil). So either this vehicle is equipped with 2A46M, or 2A82 uses the same barrel as 2A46, but with one-piece ammunition.
That looks reasonable. Though i believe the gun is slightly longer than your calculation.



My calculation using this http://sta.sh/0xx6t4wbmsx image using roadwheel diameter as referece however yield me lower value of 8.4 m.
 

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http://www.janes.com/article/52464/russia-s-t-14-armata-mbt-has-new-gen-era
 

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http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/07/russias-armata-spurring-revival-in-main.html
 

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http://www.janes.com/article/53540/armour-experts-sceptical-over-t-14-invisibility-claims?utm_campaign=%5bPMP%5d_PC5308_J360%2012.08.15%20_KV_Deployment&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Eloqua
 

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http://thediplomat.com/2015/08/its-official-russias-deadliest-tank-will-be-ready-for-battle-in-2020/
 

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New Russian tank T-14 “Armata” : A Documentary Film from Russian TV.

The most secret and the latest Russian military tank T-14 “Armata” was first shown to journalists at the site. The leading TV channel “Star” Alexei Egorov got the unique opportunity to see the behavior of the new off-road, sit inside the “Almaty was” to learn about the secrets of the armor of the tank, its engine, and the most important thing – to see firsthand how the T-14 fires!
Video:
https://youtu.be/TCGdvMkDlVc
Code:
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Read more at: http://defence-blog.com/army/new-russian-tank-t-14-armata-a-documentary-film.html
 

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http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/11/russia-making-tank-killer-with-152-mm.html
 

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bobbymike said:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2015/11/russia-making-tank-killer-with-152-mm.html
thank you again for posting Sir.
 

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http://nextbigfuture.com/2016/01/video-of-russian-armata-t14-tank.html
 

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http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/surprise-russias-lethal-t-14-armata-tank-production-15480
 

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http://www.nextbigfuture.com/2016/09/russia-shows-video-of-new-armata-tank.html
 

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https://sputniknews.com/military/20160922/1045580324/armata-armor-piercing-protection.html

https://sputniknews.com/russia/20160928/1045788621/russia-armata-robot.html
 

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Grey Havoc said:
https://sputniknews.com/military/20160922/1045580324/armata-armor-piercing-protection.html
wow. so Russian afganit also act as Iron Fist. Im very interested on the specification of the grenade and radar used.
 

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Some interesting speculation on the armour layout from the linked post onwards: http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=39816&page=42#entry1282124
 

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Grey Havoc said:
Some interesting speculation on the armour layout from the linked post onwards: http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=39816&page=42#entry1282124
interesting speculation 'tanks for postin..'

UAS as part of the APS for Armata as well maybe
 

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"Speculation" that some there insist as fact based on wishful thinking. This is alluded to by a poster in that thread.
A diminishing handful of good posters still left...but..not the place I would go to for info on Armata, due to a whole slew of posters who use it for "political" point scoring against whatever entity they dislike.
 

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Grey Havoc said:
Some interesting speculation on the armour layout from the linked post onwards: http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=39816&page=42#entry1282124
Everytime i want to go there my virus scanner screams ALARM :mad:
 

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Anderman said:
Grey Havoc said:
Some interesting speculation on the armour layout from the linked post onwards: http://www.tank-net.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=39816&page=42#entry1282124
Everytime i want to go there my virus scanner screams ALARM :mad:
It's a legit site.

For some reason tho, sometime the link does not direct you to the forum but to advertisement site instead.
 

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My system will not allow access either, the site is flagged as dangerous.
 

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http://www.realcleardefense.com/2017/01/27/spotted_new_version_of_russia039s_armata_series_of_acvs_289839.html
 

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bobbymike said:
http://www.realcleardefense.com/2017/01/27/spotted_new_version_of_russia039s_armata_series_of_acvs_289839.html
wow, great find BM. Tank you for posting.
 

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Remember back in the day when every intell agency would spend months if not years trying to get a bad photo from a camera hidden in a hat of every new bit of kit....now you just wait a few hours for someone to upload their pics from their Iphone. ;D
 

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Foo Fighter said:
My system will not allow access either, the site is flagged as dangerous.
Tank-net is fine and safe, but once in a while someone posts a malicious link in it (it's a forum, after all), and for some reason it's hard to get that warning removed.
 

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lastdingo said:
Foo Fighter said:
My system will not allow access either, the site is flagged as dangerous.
Tank-net is fine and safe, but once in a while someone posts a malicious link in it (it's a forum, after all), and for some reason it's hard to get that warning removed.
Tank Net, apart from it's questionable bunker mentality is classed as a suspicious site because it is hosted on a server with a different URL to the virtual URL that Tank Net actually uses. This is a common feature of sites where one gets malicious software. The Tank Net folks are well aware of this problem but appear unwilling or unable to do anything about it. All you need to do is set an exception in your browser and you'll be passed through without question.
 

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http://www.tboverse.us/HPCAFORUM/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=21296
 

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flateric said:
absolute BS
Agreed. Would wonder if a garbled reference to a depleted uranium round but that may just be a case of trying to make sense of nonsense.
 

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The speculation in that thread makes sense that this might be for the 152 mm self-propelled artillery piece based on the Armata chassis.
 

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No, it doesn't make sense whatsoever.
 

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flateric said:
No, it doesn't make sense whatsoever.
Why not? We know the Russians have had 152mm nuclear artillery shells in the past and that they intend to field a version of the Koalitsya artillery piece on an Armata chassis. A new indirect fire nuclear round makes a lot more sense than a direct fire nuclear shell.
 

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from Vasily Kashin
I think I found the source of that nonsense. It is this 2 years old article https://rg.ru/2015/05/14/armata-site.html which tells us that Rosatom (Russian nuclear agency) is participating in the development of the new generation ammo for Armata. It does not say that it will be nuclear. As I understand Rosatom will help to develop a new generation of fuses for the shells which will somehow use the technology used in the nuclear warheads and will make the HE and HEAT shells more effective.
from Mikhail Barabanov (CAST)
Some of the institutes (NII) involved in the research of the physics of the explosion (including, for example, the developers of HEAT), historically are part of the nuclear industry system.
Rosatom institutes are also involved in design of Sukhoi SSJ100, Su-35 and Okhotnik UCAV. That doesn't mean they are nuclear-powered or involvement is related to tactical nukes carriage. Not everything that Sandia or Livermore labs do, has direct relationship to nukes.
 

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www.defenseone.com/technology/2017/04/us-army-exploring...new.../136943/

"“Look at what the Russians have been doing in low-fission, high-fusion, sub-kiloton tactical nuclear technology,” he said. “It appears that they are putting a big effort…in both miniaturizing the warheads and using sub-kiloton low-yield warheads.”

Why is that significant? By shrinking the warhead, you can shoot it out of a wider variety of guns, including, potentially, 152-millimeter tank cannons."


only thing that does make sense against a dispersed high tech force


aviationweek.com/awindefense/us-army-could-adopt-kinetic-energy-projectile
 

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Well, if Kerber is basing his assumptions on publications in Rossiyskaya Gazeta military section, then US intelligence community is FUBAR.
 
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