rail zeppelin

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this has been described as a rail zeppelin apparently designed by franz Kruckenberg

 

[Antonio]

Thanks a lot. I love that advanced tech from 20's and 30's.

 

[Michel Van]

more here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_zeppelin
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/TRANSPORT/proprail/proprail.htm

 

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don't forget that delightful little railplane that ran in a not so non-descript place in Scotland

 

[Just call me Ray]

You mean the Bennie Railplane?

 

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yep, that's the little bugger. I have plenty of pictures of the same in an old British raj era encyclopedia that my family has, however its in kolkata and I currently live in delhi

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

Maybe the biggest ever planned rail zeppelin !
Luftschiffbau Zeppelin "Großraumtriebwagen" 1942
http://www.arw-modellbau.de/triebwagen.html
Here a little drawing ( Page 125 )
www.uni-stuttgart.de/wechselwirkungen/ww2003/Seeger_Spic_Kornatzki.pdf

Many greetings

 

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he he ,
they probably planned to transport half of Dresden at one go...

 

[Jemiba]

"they probably planned to transport half of Dresden at one go... "

..to bring them all to festivities in the "Volkshalle" (peoples hall, only 290m high) in
"Germania", as the name "Berlin" wouldn't have been used any longer then.
A bit OT, but as we are talking about Zeppelin projects : What would have the minimal
radius of the 3 metres track width, this monster would have used ? Probably quite
unsuitable for a modellers railroad .. :

Must have been mental illness, or just an attempt, to impress the Nazi leaders !

(photo from http://de.altermedia.info/)

 

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remember the Nazis had all sorts of problems on Russian railroads. Russian railroads were mostly broad gauge whereas Germany like a lot of Europe had standardized on standard gauge . this was the bloody answer .

do away with all standard width railroads altogether and show the Russians who is bigger!

 

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the rail zeppelin gives you that flexibility. suppose a couple of T-34s broke through you could preserve your rail system by simply flying off!

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody

BTW there was a broad gauge STEAM TANK HUNTER. Sounds very interesting.
Fritz Hahn also mentioned a broad gauge Panzerzug in his book Waffen und Geheimwaffen.
Maybe someone knows more about these military broad gauge train projects ?
Maybe someone owns this book "Die Breitspurbahn - Anton Joachimsthaler"? And can tell us more ?

Thanks for every reply in advance

 

[moin1900]

Hi everybody
Luftschraubenversuchswagen
http://www.dlr.de/100Jahre/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-3304/5153_read-7464/
Car with Beutepropeller
http://www.dlr.de/100Jahre/desktopdefault.aspx/tabid-2565/4432_read-17286/
Magnetschwebebahn with rocket plane ? (ME-163?) 1943
http://www.dlr.de/100Jahre/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-3304/5153_read-7464/gallery-1/gallery_read-Image.37.3255/
Many greetings

 

[Michel Van]

Magnetschwebebahn with rocket plane ? (ME-163?) 1943
http://www.dlr.de/100Jahre/DesktopDefault.aspx/tabid-3304/5153_read-7464/gallery-1/gallery_read-Image.37.3255/

that model looks more like a rocketsled Testtrack for aerodynamic testing

on Bennie Railplane
i look for Online video on that monorail
but i found instat this 1920 silent movie
http://www.britishpathe.com/record.php?id=8743

 

[Justo Miranda]

Rail Komet here...

 

[jzichek]

Referring back to the first post in this thread, there is a book on the Schienenzeppelin available from Amazon.de:

http://www.amazon.de/Schienenzeppelin-Franz-Kruckenberg-Reichsbahn-Schnelltriebwagen-Vorkriegszeit/dp/3882551348/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3LBZKY7RVQ0LN&colid=WLT9CXE8XSIG

Do any of our German forum members have an opinion on this book? I'm generally not a train enthusiast, but the design of this vehicle is so intriguing that I would consider purchasing the book.

 

[JohnR]

I remember seeing something on Antiques Roadshow or something similar of a guy coming on with a similar concept, did a bit of google bashing and found this:

http://www.theglasgowstory.com/image.php?inum=TGSE00050

Thought it was really interesting at the time.

Regards.

 

[Hammer Birchgrove]

"they probably planned to transport half of Dresden at one go... "

..to bring them all to festivities in the "Volkshalle" (peoples hall, only 290m high) in
"Germania", as the name "Berlin" wouldn't have been used any longer then.
A bit OT, but as we are talking about Zeppelin projects : What would have the minimal
radius of the 3 metres track width, this monster would have used ? Probably quite
unsuitable for a modellers railroad .. :

Must have been mental illness, or just an attempt, to impress the Nazi leaders !

(photo from http://de.altermedia.info/)

Speaking of Nazis, the "altermedia" website is pretty much a Nazi website.

 

[Grey Havoc]

Regarding the Bennie Railplane, also known as the George Bennie* Rail Plane:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7ZvfO-99dc

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnDwHHVDMjk

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvSmwMqtylA

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Qamg3C188

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Scenes from the film GEORGE BENNIE RAILPLANE SYSTEM OF TRANSPORT (1929-1930). This is a technical record of the construction of the railplane, invented by George Bennie. The railplane glides into the 'station' with the propellor on the front whirling. It looks like a small aeroplane without the cockpit windows. The railplane hangs below its own line, above a steam train on the tracks below. The clip is from The Scottish Screen Archive collection. For more information about this film including details of how to obtain a copy please follow this link http://ssa.nls.uk/film.cfm?fid=1341 The Scottish Screen Archive holds thousands of films and videos from Scotland's 20th-century history. The archive contains everything from home movies and advertisements to educational films and documentaries. There are films detailing technical processes and others showing the imagination and innovation of Scottish film-makers over the years. http://www.nls.uk/ssa/

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHP6tFNzKeM


*Sometimes incorrectly put down as George Benny.