• Hi Guest! Forum rules have been updated. All users please read here.

PWS & PZL Projects

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

The PZL Foka was twin boom single seat lightweight fighter project and powered
by one pusher engine,it was abandoned in favour of PZL-45.

PWS Z-17 was single seat fighter project developed to replace PZL-7.

PWS Z-18 was single seat fighter project developed to replace PZL-11c.
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

PWS Z-36 was single seat fighter project.

PWS Z-37 was two seat fighter developed from Z-36.
 

lark

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
1,806
Reaction score
73
PZL Foka was not a plane but an inverted 'V' engine.
Several variants of this engine with various power output were produced.

source : Polish Aircraft 1893-1939 - Jerzy B.Cynk- Putnam.London 1971
 

Jemiba

ACCESS: Above Top Secret
Staff member
Top Contributor
Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2006
Messages
8,228
Reaction score
945
Just as in illustration for "PZL projects" and rare prototypes :
(from RAF Flying Review 12.59)

The "PZL dabrowskis fighter" was a light fighter derivative of
this designers light tourer from 1938.
 

Attachments

  • PZL_P-45.gif
    PZL_P-45.gif
    51.8 KB · Views: 1,221
  • PZL_P-48.gif
    PZL_P-48.gif
    54.4 KB · Views: 1,139
  • PZL_Mis.gif
    PZL_Mis.gif
    57.4 KB · Views: 1,102
  • PZL_light.gif
    PZL_light.gif
    53.1 KB · Views: 1,109

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Thank you my dears (lark & Jemiba),

and for PZL-45 when the PZL-44 was designed the next was a project
of twin boom single seat fighter powered with pusher engine,but later
abandoned in favour of the PZL-45 conventional design,as low wing
light weight fighter.

PWS Z-47 was two seat fighter/trainer project developed from Z-17 &
Z-18.
PWS Z-49 was two seat fighter/trainer project developed from Z-36 &
Z-37.
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

PZL Zbik was twin engined two seat fighter/reconnaissance aircraft
project led to develope PZL-38 Wilk.

PZL project of 1936 ,it was also twin engined two seat reconnaissance/
observation aircraft.
 

Nick Sumner

Live! From the Belly of the Beast!
Senior Member
Joined
May 31, 2006
Messages
528
Reaction score
146
Jemiba,

Does 'RAF Flying Review 12.59 have plan drawings and frontal elevations too? If not do you know where they could be found?

Is there an accompanying article? Is it any good?
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

PZL Losos was single engined two seat medium bomber/reconnaissance aircarft project,
powered by Hispano-Suiza 12Z engine.

PZL Project from P.46 Sum,it was single engined two seat reconnaissance/bomber project,
powered by Bristol Hercules engine.
 

smurf

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
Sep 6, 2006
Messages
547
Reaction score
26
Nick S asks
Does 'RAF Flying Review 12.59 have plan drawings and frontal elevations too? If not do you know where they could be found?
Putnam's Polish Aircraft 1893 - 1939 by Jerzy Cynk has:
3-view of PZL Los with Mis as side view inset. No drawings (thrown into baker's oven by designers wife when Germans reached Warsaw!) but description says same basic structure as Los, Hercules or Gnome Rhone engines of 1400hp. Wing had streamlined fairings between trailing edge and rear fuselage removed. Fuselage longer, 46'11. Increased area tail generally similar to Los.

3-view of PZL P38 Wilk with P48 Lampart scratch side view.

PZL P62(?) Dabrowski's light fighter 3-view.

PZL P45 Sokol (Falcon) author's impression, with spatted undercarriage.
The PZL P45 Sokol of the RAF Flying review article is in the book (3-view) as the RWD 25 Sokol

Much description of these and others.
 

Jemiba

ACCESS: Above Top Secret
Staff member
Top Contributor
Senior Member
Joined
Mar 11, 2006
Messages
8,228
Reaction score
945
"Does 'RAF Flying Review 12.59 have plan drawings and frontal elevations too?"

Sorry, no, this article only features side views. There are several more of lesser
known types, like the P-46 Sum, PWS-33 Wyzek, LWS-3 Mewa, Nikol A-2
(at least not known to me ...!) and a data table for these types.
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
My dear Jemiba,

for PZL-46 see;http://avia.russian.ee/air/poland/pzl-46.php
for PWS-33 see;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PWS-33_Wy%C5%BCe%C5%82
for LWS-3 see;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LWS-3_Mewa
for Nikol A-2 see;http://www.answers.com/topic/nikol-a-2
 

lark

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
1,806
Reaction score
73
The Sokól - Falcon- fighters were with three of them...

P.Z.L. P.45
P.W.S.41
and
RWD 25

They all were under development in the late 30' but events overtook the development.
There's an excellent article by Jerzy B.Cynck in Air Pictorial , Oktober 1963
with side and plan wiews of these projects.
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

A very strange thing that the LWS-1 was re-allocated to a project of single seat
low wing fighter,which was taken over by PZL as P.39,the LWS-1 was originally
the continues to produce Lubin R.XX aircraft.
 

Attachments

  • rys047.jpg
    rys047.jpg
    9.3 KB · Views: 1,013

lark

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
1,806
Reaction score
73
Hesham,
What is the source of your reply # 12 reply ?
As far as I know, all the designs you mention are two engined.
What is the designation of the single seater you showed us in side view?
Thanks.
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
My dear lark,

Please get my special message.

Anther project to PZL was Woik two seat fighter.
 

lark

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Feb 17, 2006
Messages
1,806
Reaction score
73
Picture for the LWS 1/PZL-39 is very hazy.
Designation changed several times as well as the configuration of the design.
Maybe one of the Polish members can set more light on this subject ?
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

The PZL P.33 single seat fighter project,in two different drawings,
and the last with a very strange retractable landing gear.
 

Attachments

  • PZL-33 (2B).jpg
    PZL-33 (2B).jpg
    4.8 KB · Views: 485
  • PZL-33 (2A).jpg
    PZL-33 (2A).jpg
    2.7 KB · Views: 471
  • PZL-33 (2).jpg
    PZL-33 (2).jpg
    4.6 KB · Views: 514
  • PZL-33.jpg
    PZL-33.jpg
    1.8 KB · Views: 510

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

I know that topic for PWS and PZL,but that is a project to Lubin,
the R.XXB was intended to compete PZL P.30B & P.37.
 

Attachments

  • R.XXB.jpg
    R.XXB.jpg
    6.7 KB · Views: 447

Szymon

Hell Hath No Fury Like a FireFighter
Joined
Apr 7, 2007
Messages
9
Reaction score
1
Website
www.sgfp.com.pl
Hey

I'm from Poland and I interesting polish plane projects before war, projects not finished because war begins - Polish Air Force 1940 -> something like Luftwaffe 1946 :). I make some 3D renders this projects, rest of them is under construction.



PZL 38 Wilk (Wolf) - double seat pursuit fighter with Foka (Seal) engines. Foka engine is Nowokuński construction, powerfull (420 HP) but light weight (280kg) and has a small front section.

Arming: front 20mm FK wz. 38D and two machine guns KM 7,9 mm PWU. Shooter has two machine gins KM 7,9mm PWU on hydraulic yoke hidden with guns in hulk when she was not used, and shooter cocpit was closed. One PWU 300kg thrown bomb on frame in diver flight (similarly how in IAR-81).

Spread: 11.05 m
Length: 8.35 m
Height: 2.50 m
Surface: 20.4 m2
Total weight: 2155 kg
Useful weight: 645 kg
Maximum Weight: 2800 kg
Maximum Speed : 465 km/h
Cruise Speed : 360 km/h
Speed minimal: 120 km/h
Raising: 8 m/s
Ceiling: 9000 m
Range: 850 km
Waste of fuels: 220 l/h

Only one flying copy exiss. On Paris Air Show in 38 Wilk is a model with Foka engines, flying tests made in ranger engines because Foka has to small power. This copy take over by Germans like war thropy, and burnt in air raid in museum in Berlin.

Old render in Rhino3D (new render under construction)
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/P38Wilk.jpg

PZL 48 Lampart (Leopard) - Development of PZL 38 Wilk with two Gnome-Rhome 14M07 "Mars" (730 HP) , larger and with no slots. Nowokuński died in Tatra mountains in 1939 and not finish Foka engine his successors be able to to finish up engine. Command of aviation decided to apply different engines on fuselage, choice fell on GR Mars, which were wanted to apply in LWS-3 Mewa (Seagull).Two version were foreseen pursuit and assault.

Arming A version : front two 20mm FK wz. 38D and two machine guns KM 7,9 mm PWU. Shooter has two machine guns KM 7,9mm PWU on hydraulic yoke hidden with guns in hulk when she was not used, and shooter cocpit was closed. One PWU 300kg thrown bomb on frame in diver flight (similarly how in IAR-81).

Arming B version : front eight machine guns KM 7,9 mm PWU. Shooter has two machine guns KM 7,9mm PWU on hydraulic yoke hidden with guns in hulk when she was not used, and shooter cocpit was closed. One PWU 300kg thrown bomb on frame in diver flight (similarly how in IAR-81).

Spread: 11.50 m
Length: 8.70 m
Height: 2.50 m
Surface: 21.5 m2
Total weight: 2400 kg
Useful weight: 1100 kg
Maximum Weight: 3500 kg
Maximum Speed : 560 km/h
Speed minimal: 130 km/h
Raising: 9 m/s
Ceiling: 10000 m
Range: 1500 km

Plane exist only in plans.

Old render in Rhino3D (new render under construction)
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/P48LampartA.jpg


PZL 54 Rys (Wildcat) - Development of PZL 48 Lampart with two Hispano-Suiza 12L (1200-1600HP).

Arming : front two 20mm FK wz. 38D and two machine guns KM 7,9 mm PWU. Shooter has two machine guns KM 7,9mm PWU on hydraulic yoke hidden with guns in hulk when she was not used, and shooter cocpit was closed. One PWU 300kg thrown bomb on frame in diver flight (similarly how in IAR-81).

Spread: 11.50 m
Length: 8.70 m
Height: 2.50 m
Surface: 21.5 m2
Maximum Speed : 640km/h

Plane exist only in plans.


PZL 50 Jastrzab (Hawk) - Successor of PZL P.11.All in metal construction, with Bristol Mercury (850HP) engine. In construction similar to Seversky P-35.Best aerodynamical but he had weak engine

Arming : 4 km 7,9 mm wz. 36. Two in hulk, two in external parts of wing and 100kg of bombs.

Spread: 9,70 m
Length: 7,70 m
Height: 2.70 m
Surface: 19 m2
Total weight: 1900 kg
Useful weight: 500 kg
Maximum Weight: 2400 kg
Maximum Speed : 480 km/h
Cruise Speed : 375 km/h
Range: 750 km

Only one copy of plane exist in flight tests but in september 1939 was shoot down by own AAA.

Old render in Rhino3D (new render under construction)
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/P50Jastrzab.jpg

Soon more infos and renders PZL P.62, RWD-25 and RWD-22
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi syzmon,

Can I ask you about the PZL P.52 ,I rote that it was also called
Rys as single seat fighter project, is that right ?.
 

Szymon

Hell Hath No Fury Like a FireFighter
Joined
Apr 7, 2007
Messages
9
Reaction score
1
Website
www.sgfp.com.pl
Rys i codename of PZL 54 project, development of Wilk/Lampart with Hispano-Suiza engines. I search my data for PZL P.52 later, maybe i found some infos.

PZL P.62 (no codename) - project of Dabrowski figter with Hispano-Suiza engine (Dabrowski was project PZL P.37 Los). Metal one seat fighter. Its only project but very nice aerodynamical

Arming: One 20mm FK cannon shoot by the engine, and 8 (or 6 by the other sources) 7,9mm type PWU 36 machine guns in wings (other sources - 6 in wings, 2 over the engine)

Spread: 11,00 m
Lenght: 8,50 m
Height: 3,86 m
Surface 19,00
Total weight: 2000 kg
max weight: 3250 kg
Max speed: 640-660 km/h
Range: 800 km

Old renders:
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/PZL-62.jpg
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/PZL-62_2.jpg

New renders:
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/PZL_P.62.jpg
http://republika.pl/szymonkot/PZL_P.62_2.jpg
 

Szymon

Hell Hath No Fury Like a FireFighter
Joined
Apr 7, 2007
Messages
9
Reaction score
1
Website
www.sgfp.com.pl
hesham said:
Hi syzmon,

Can I ask you about the PZL P.52 ,I rote that it was also called
Rys as single seat fighter project, is that right ?.

I didnt found closer info about PZL P.52 but P.50 is Jastrzab, P.54 i Rys (development od Wilk/Lampart with Hispano Suiza Engines), P.56 Kania is development of P.50 Jastrzab with Hispano-suiza engine. If ministry of Aviation announced competition this individual air - institutions onto some airplane it marked (PZL, RWD, PWS, LWD) some constructional offices to study of different answering conception order of ministry of Aviation, thus P.52 PZL of relate preliminary project can be internal sign of P.54 Rys of different office depression then this which won internal competition or sign of development P.50 Jastrzab. In my notes I have passed, that in view of problems P.50 from tight turning and raising two versions were considered from short and long wing, so sign P.52 can be sign of version P.50 with longer wing.
 

Szymon

Hell Hath No Fury Like a FireFighter
Joined
Apr 7, 2007
Messages
9
Reaction score
1
Website
www.sgfp.com.pl
This is very nice project of PWS-46 (or PWS-60 - he has two numbers). It's a concept of Ciolkosz : heavy fighter , bomber/attack plane and recon plane. Two G&R engines in twin tail concept plane with two cocpits and two pilots, or pilot and nawigator/bombardier. It's project from 1939 and looks similar like Twin-Mustang.

Arment: 2 or 4 - 7,9 mm PWU 36 machine guns in central wing section and 1000 kg of bombs.

http://republika.pl/szymonkot/PWS-46.jpg
 

shinblam

ACCESS: Restricted
Joined
Apr 17, 2007
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
PZL P.56 Kania and P.63

Howdy again. Today I'm looking for information and history on a couple of projects from PZL, the P.56 Kania and the P.63. Now the only site I could find decent information on either was www.powiat.mielec.pl, but there is one problem, I can't read Polish.

From what I could gather from the sight was that the P.56 was a fighter project from 1939 and was powered by a single Hipano-Suiza 12Y, and the P.63 was another single seat fighter project from 1939 powered by "Jeden silnik gwiazdowy, o mocy 883-1177 kW (1200-1600 KM)." and was armed with 4-6 7.9mm machine guns and 2 20mm cannons. Again, your help is appreciated.
 

Apophenia

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2007
Messages
2,588
Reaction score
890
Re: PZL P.56 Kania and P.63

More Polish pages and a machine translator

http://www.poltran.com/

PZL.56 Kania

http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str360.htm
http://awiacja.republika.pl/pzl2.htm#PZL.56 [Dead link]
-- http://web.archive.org/web/20110722051346/http://awiacja.republika.pl/pzl2.htm
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/PZL.56_Kania

PZL.63

http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str003k7.htm (scroll to bottom)
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str087.htm
 

shinblam

ACCESS: Restricted
Joined
Apr 17, 2007
Messages
7
Reaction score
0
Re: PZL P.56 Kania and P.63

Thanks for the info Apoph. There doesn't seem to be much info floating around on the P.63.

Another request: any drawings or diagrams of the P.53( a redesigned and up-engined P.50) and/or P.63?

thanks
 

Apophenia

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Jul 25, 2007
Messages
2,588
Reaction score
890
Re: PZL P.56 Kania and P.63

Edited for confusion! I'm not actually innumerate, just muddled ... :-[
 
J

joncarrfarrelly

Guest
Re: PZL P.56 Kania and P.63

According to 'Polish Aircraft 1893-1939' by Jerzy B. Cynk, the P.56 'Kania' designation was assigned to a reworked, Hispano 12Z powered P.50 Jastrzab. The book lists no P.63, the closest thing is what is refered to as P.Z.L. 'Dabrowski's Fighter Project (P.62?)' for an aircraft also to be powered by a Hispano 12Z as a competitive proposal to the P.56. The aerodynamic design was based on a light touring aircraft that Dabrowski had designed in 1938 for his personal use, the tourer was largely modelled on the P.Z.L. 26 Challenge tourer. As to designation, to quote Cynk; "There is reason to believe that the designation P.62 was applied to the fighter, although reliable information is lacking and Dabrowski himself has not been able to confirm this."

The book includes an 3-view and an impression of the aircraft by Cynk, both of which were based on Dabrowski's sketches.
The side-view in the link posted earlier is from the 3-view in the Cynk book, a is the grayscale image of the aircraft, and the linked 3-view is a reworking of the Cynk 3-view. The drawing is provisional and, as stated, is based on Dabrowski's sketches and recollections. The book was published in 1971, so perhaps something more definitive has come to light in the interim.

Post-war Dabrowski worked on a trainer aircraft with Percival Aircraft called the Gazelle, like the P.62(?) this was also based on the general lines of his 1938 tourer. The RAF did not buy the Gazelle and Dabrowski moved to Folland where he worked on the wing design for the supersonic Gnat project. After Folland he moved to the US where he worked for Cessna, Stanley Aviation and from May 1959 until his death in September 1967, Boeing.

Jon
 

Szymon

Hell Hath No Fury Like a FireFighter
Joined
Apr 7, 2007
Messages
9
Reaction score
1
Website
www.sgfp.com.pl
Re: PZL P.56 Kania and P.63

Shinblam look this:

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,1471.0.html

PZL-63 - incorrect plane number, see PZL-53 "Jastrzab" II.

PZL-53 "Jastrzab" II (attention: met in older publications sign PZL-63 is incorrect !) - single-engine one-seat figter plane, being further evolution of airplane PZL-50 "Jastrzab" with radiale engine of large power (probably type Bristol "Hercules" II or III, Bristol "Taurus" II or III, Gnôme - Rhône 14N-21 or PZL "Waran"). Only project.

Pzl-56 "Kania" - single-engine one-seat fighter plane. Developmental version of airplane PZL-50 "Jastrzab" with piston engine of type Hispano-Suiza 12Y-51 i/lub 12Z. Only project.

Its draw of P-56:
http://szymonkot.republika.pl/1.jpg

PS: Translation of names -> Jastrzab in english is Hawk, Kania is Kite.
 

Dominik

ACCESS: Restricted
Joined
Feb 4, 2008
Messages
11
Reaction score
0
To find interesting drawings of Jastrzab, you shoul visit:
http://www.airart3d.ovh.org/html/gallery.htm
There you can find the latest, although, according to some people, not very accurate 3d drawings.
Another site, where you can find Jastrząb is: http://www.dws.xip.pl/wojna/rzeczB.html (click "Lotnictwo i obrona przeciwlotnicza and and you will find link to the article on Jastrząb.
AFAIK there wasn't such project as PZL 52. There was PZL 53 though. It was developed version of Jastrząb, so called Jastrzab II with redesigned wings, aft fuselage and more powerful engine.
 

airman

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
82
Website
zeef.com
please visit also : http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/ , you will find more about polish projects ! ::)
 

Justo Miranda

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Dec 2, 2007
Messages
4,238
Reaction score
1,895
Please see attached some stuff from my publication UNKNOWN!-1
Drawings SOURCE GRADING 4
 

Attachments

  • Kania-1.jpg
    Kania-1.jpg
    268.6 KB · Views: 503
  • Kania-2.jpg
    Kania-2.jpg
    161.4 KB · Views: 560
  • Kania-3.jpg
    Kania-3.jpg
    151.4 KB · Views: 554

SlickDriver

ACCESS: Confidential
Joined
Jun 20, 2006
Messages
162
Reaction score
7
Szymon,

Do you have anything on the PZL.46A Sum or PZL.49 Miś bombers?
 

airman

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
82
Website
zeef.com
sign in your preferites this link:
http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/rws/index.htm

http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl/pzl56.htm ( pzl 56)

http://www.powiat.mielec.pl/poser/samoloty/pzl/pzl62.htm (pzl 62)

ok, site are in polish language, but i suppose like me i could be understand the primary technical data ! ;D
 

Dominik

ACCESS: Restricted
Joined
Feb 4, 2008
Messages
11
Reaction score
0
IMHO www.samoloty.ow.pl is much better, although there are still some Polish aircraft to describe.
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str250.htm (article on Miś)
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str087.htm (article on PZL 62 aka 55).

Sum was the successor of Karas. It had semi-monocoque fuselage, fixed undercarriage, cantilever twin rudder. The engine was Bristol Pegasus XX.
It could carry 600 kg bombs and 7 machine guns.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Piterski/Pzl-46%20Sum/Sum-21.jpg
 

Dominik

ACCESS: Restricted
Joined
Feb 4, 2008
Messages
11
Reaction score
0
Recently I've found a new site with some Polish aircraft graphics and animations.
http://bdf2005.republika.pl/html/galeria.html (especially RWD-25, PZL-45 Sokół, PZL-50 Jastrząb and PZL P.11g Kobuz)
http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=thFecaq-dfk
The second is PZL 38 Wilk animation. Really neat, although some errors might be found.

Regards
 

hesham

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
May 26, 2006
Messages
26,723
Reaction score
3,495
Hi,

here is the Z-17.
 

Attachments

  • Z-17.jpg
    Z-17.jpg
    62.3 KB · Views: 417

airman

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
82
Website
zeef.com
Dominik said:
IMHO www.samoloty.ow.pl is much better, although there are still some Polish aircraft to describe.
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str250.htm (article on Miś)
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str087.htm (article on PZL 62 aka 55).

Sum was the successor of Karas. It had semi-monocoque fuselage, fixed undercarriage, cantilever twin rudder. The engine was Bristol Pegasus XX.
It could carry 600 kg bombs and 7 machine guns.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y177/Piterski/Pzl-46%20Sum/Sum-21.jpg
yes, you are right, infact is one of my preferites ! ;)
 

airman

ACCESS: Top Secret
Joined
Oct 14, 2007
Messages
1,214
Reaction score
82
Website
zeef.com
a little present for you : on Aerei nella storia of Febbraio - Marzo 2010 ( February - March 2010) there was an article about Pzl P.50 and images that reprents a P.24 with a low wings ,various variants of P.50 and P.56 !
I have scanned and saved in pdf
 

Attachments

  • img001.pdf
    156.6 KB · Views: 141

Similar threads

Top