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The original thread about the India Pakistan skirmish was closed and since then some interesting developments have surfaced on losses and targets from both sides. India of course lost a Rafale and a Mirage and in a press conference basically admitted it without admitting it but since then there is evidence of a Pakistani C-130 being destroyed on the ground as well as Pakistani Sqn Leader Usman Yousaf being killed. Pakistan claims he was killed when India struck an air base and its hanger. This strongly suggests some more Pakistani aircraft were damaged or destroyed as it would be highly unusual for airmen to be in empty hangers especially during hostilities since those are priority targets. Pakistan claims to have destroyed an S-400 launcher however there is no evidence other than a a grainy satellite image that doesn’t show anything. There is also some video from inside India which shows aircraft debris. I tried reverse google search and couldn’t find anything, some claim it was from an old helicopter crash however the engines don’t match any known helicopters (at least what I could find). Pakistanis claim it’s an SU-30 which it obviously is not while Indians claim it a Mirage 3 which it almost certainly looks like. I anyone has more evidence of losses from either side please post it.


Some of the hangers that were hit:

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Don’t know how legitimate this is but it’s all over social media. Looks like a Mirage 3 engine, there is a video that shows Indian soldiers at the crash site but this contradicts everything we been told about neither side crossing the border. Anyone have any information on what it could be? I highly doubt a Mirage would cross into India but it does look a lot like engines from a Mirage 3.


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From the Pakistani press conference. Said to be an S-400 that was destroyed but i honestly see no evidence. Based off evidence from Ukraine, all large air defenses launchers leave hundreds of yards of scorched earth and the launchers themselves or the carcasses that them generally look white in color after they burn out due to intense fire and chemical reaction of propellants:


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A burning C-130:

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Strong evidence that the engine that many speculated was from a Mirage is actually an RD-93. This could coincide with the picture of the K-36 ejection seat.
 

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Indian air to air tactics seemed poor with the results being the loss of poor 3 aircraft however the IAF execution of striking high value ground targets seems exceptionably good. Looks like most of the damage was caused by Rafale and SU-30MKIs with what seems like a combination of Brahomos and KH-31s for the SU-30MKIs and Scalps for the Rafale, perhaps some Hammers to.


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Scalp cruise missiles wreckage somewhere in Pakistan. Likely shot down or jammed. It’s also possible it just failed as Syria has proven that Scalps don’t have 100% reliability as is with every system.
 

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Being shared online but I don’t know of the authenticity. I tried playing with filters of the original photo but I couldn’t see anything. I am guessing the picture is BS and not authentic but if someone can prove me wrong I am open to it.
 

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Being shared online but I don’t know of the authenticity. I tried playing with filters of the original photo but I couldn’t see anything. I am guessing the picture is BS and not authentic but if someone can prove me wrong I am open to it.
What is it?
 
"... a Saab 2000 AWACS orbiting safely backfield can transmit guidance instructions to PL-15 missiles fired by Pakistan’s J-10 and JF-17 fighters, even if those jets keep their radars off. "


Was it really the case this time?

Any other credible sources that back up the claim above?
 
What is it?

It shows a destroyed aircraft in the hangar. However, I have my doubts about its authenticity. I took the original and played with filters and brightness and didn’t see anything similar. Maybe someone used something more advanced? Either way until someone can prove it’s real i have doubts.
 
"... a Saab 2000 AWACS orbiting safely backfield can transmit guidance instructions to PL-15 missiles fired by Pakistan’s J-10 and JF-17 fighters, even if those jets keep their radars off. "


Was it really the case this time?

Any other credible sources that back up the claim above?

I'm not a 19fortyfive reader; the site seems to have real people working for it (not a given these days) but its "About Us" section leaves much room for improvement in its vagueness. The people involved seem to push their content on several platforms. The article itself is long and striving for authoritativeness (pun intended) but having followed a conversation here with a real subject matter expert, among other things, I have a strong impression that it's jumping into unwarranted conclusions. One thing especially caught my eye. Here's the full paragraph you quoted from:

19fortyfive said:
Moreover, as China uses the Erieye too, its PL-15 missiles were designed to network with the radar via two-way datalink. That means a Saab 2000 AWACS orbiting safely backfield can transmit guidance instructions to PL-15 missiles fired by Pakistan’s J-10 and JF-17 fighters, even if those jets keep their radars off. This method also can deny targeted aircraft warning of the missile’s approach until the final terminal phase, when the missile’s active seeker turns on to complete the intercept.

Neither PLAAF nor PLANAF use Erieye. It's a glaring and curious mistake to make in such a detailed and firmly opinionated article and left me wondering how such a thing could even slip through. I even tried to ascertain whether by one or another hook or crook China may have still acquired Erieye technology and thus came by a Wikipedia article about the Chinese AEW&C plane Shaanxi KJ-200, stating the following:

Wikipedia said:
The key component of this aircraft is an AESA radar system, visually similar to the Saab Erieye system, mounted on struts above the rear fuselage, as well as ventral sensor domes. The platform of this aircraft is based on the Shaanxi Y-8F-600 and it has been reported that Pratt & Whitney Canada PW150B turboprops and Honeywell avionics have been incorporated.

I can't tell for sure what happened but imagine a very sloppy reading of that could lead someone to constate China operating SAAB's Erieye. Another possibility would be that the article is based, at least in part, on AI "cooperation" where an artificial agent's probabilistic algorithm has failed to contextualize the full meaning of that Wikipedia article and the mistake subsequently managed to escape both the writer and the editor as well. Both being a commentator and just a "written content producer" are precarious industries these days and sadly do not usually reward true expertise, exhaustive research or careful deliberation. It's the brave world of billionaire broligarchs where they escape accountability and facts by a thousand hot takes.

I don't even disagree with everything in that article, or at least suspect there might be some truth to some of it but overall am skeptical about the whole for the above reasons and generally lament the state of our "information society" that has us wasting so much thought and energy both producing such things and then fact-checking it all.
 
Here is the most important and costly part of S-400. There are few of these as they can be linked with multiple launchers. They would only need one of these to cover a large area, as these systems, or at least their radars give off radiation when operational. SEADs missiles home in on radiation sources therefore it not likely Pakistan destroyed any components of the S-400. Their satellite “evidence” was very suspicious as well as there was nothing in the after picture.


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And here is the launcher at presumably the same airbase.


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