Paul Aubert

[Maveric]

P.A. 10 ???
P.A. 20 http://www.aviafrance.com/aubert-pa-20-cigale--aviation-france-10074.htm (with many versions)
P.A. 30 ???
P.A. 40 ???
P.A. 50 ???
P.A. 60 Fighter Project 1937 http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,395.210.html
P.A. 70 Fighter Project 193? http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,395.210.html
P.A. 80 ???
P.A. 90 ???
P.A.100 tourisme project http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,395.210.html


I have also a P.A.400...

 

[hesham]

Great work my dear Maveric,and many thanks to my dear Tophe.

P.A.300 was a single seat biplane project,powered by one engine.

 

[Jemiba]

PA.201, post-war version of the PA.20 with 140 hp Renault engine
PA.204 Cigale-Major, touring aircraft with 170 hp SNECMA engine
PA.204S Super Cigale, version of the PA.204 with Lycoming engine

 

[Maveric]

P.A. 10 ???
P.A. 20 http://www.aviafrance.com/aubert-pa-20-cigale--aviation-france-10074.htm (with many versions)
P.A. 30 ???
P.A. 40 ???
P.A. 50 ???
P.A. 60 Fighter Project 1937 http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,395.210.html
P.A. 70 Fighter Project 193? http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,395.210.html
P.A. 80 ???
P.A. 90 ???
P.A.100 tourisme project http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,395.210.html






P.A.100 tourisme project

P.A.200 ???
P.A.300 was a single seat biplane project,powered by one engine
P.A.400 (pictured)

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks Maveric. My list has a few variant details but little more to add

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Aviation Aubert - Paul Aubert (PA) Designations

Pre-WWII 'PA'Series Designations

PA-10 -- [??] Possibly 1936 light aircraft design

PA-12 -- Sansonnet, 1936 sesquiplane 2-seat* lightplane/tourer,
- PA-12: 60 hp Train 6T or 70 hp Train 6D air-cooled inverted 6-cyl.
-- * Tandem for training, single-seat for long-range and racing
-- http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,15888.msg211378.html#msg211378

PA-20 -- Cigale, 1938 high-wing cantilever monoplane cabin a/c, x 1
- PA-20 Cigale: Wooden const., 1 x 60 hp Train 6T; span 9.50 m
- PA-20 Cigale: Prototype airframe; later converted into PA-201
- PA-201 Cigale: Refined PA-20, 1 x 90 hp Régnier 4-cyl. inline; x 2
- PA-201 Cigale: 1938; PA-201 n° 1 prototype; re-engined PA-20
- PA-201 Cigale: 1938; PA-201 n° 2 prototype PA-201; F-WBBQ
- PA-202 - PA-203 - (??) hypothetical designations*
-- * Probably skipped over to have 204 number for 4-seat development
- PA-204 Cigale Major: 1949 4-seat development of PA-201; x 2
- PA-204 Cigale Major: N° 1 prototype converted from PA-201 n°2
- PA-204 Cigale Major: 1 x 140 hp Renault 4Pei 4-cyl.; span 10.00 m
-- Cigale Major was to be "transformable en sanitaire"
-- http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1938/1938 - 3403.html
- PA-204S Super Cigale: 1951 re-engined PA-204 airframe; 1 x built
- PA-204S Super Cigale: 1 x 170 hp SNECMA-Régnier 4L-21 4-cyl.
- PA-204L Super Cigale: 1955; re-engined PA-204S prototype; x 1
- PA-204L Super Cigale: 1 x 135 hp Lycoming 290-D2B; span 10.00 m
- PA-205L Super Cigale: 1956; re-engined PA-204L prototype; x 1
- PA-205L Super Cigale: 1 x 150 hp Lycoming O-320; span 10.00 m
- PA-250 (Project): 1955 PA-204S development; club touring aircraft

PA-30 - (Project) 1936 twin-engined biplane cargo aircraft
- PA-30: To fulfill an Argentinian contract, never completed
-- Said to resemble the British de Havilland DH.84 Dragon

PA-40 - (Project) 1936 twin-engined low-wing monoplane cargo a/c
- PA-40: To fulfill an Argentinian contract, never completed
-- Removable cargo bunkers, trucks able to pass beneath aircraft

PA-50 - (??) hypothetical designation

PA 60 - (Project) 1937 side-by-side 2-seat twin-boomed pull-pull fighter
- PA 60: Tandem engines in central pod; 1 x tractor + 1 x pusher props

PA 70 - (Project) 1936 'Jockey' fighter; conventional (classique) layout
- PA 70: 1 x Gnome-Rhône 14M Mars 14-cyl. radial; span (??) m
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/paul-aubert-projects.15888/

PA-80 - PA-90 - (??) hypothetical designations

Post-WWII 'PA' Series Designations

PA-100 - (Project) 1946 fighter-trainer; in Caudron Cyclone class

PA-101 - (Project) 194? PA-100 variant; (??) no other details

PA-102 - (Project) 1953 Épervier tandem 2-seat training aircraft
- PA-102: 1 x 260 hp Argus-Salmson 8-AS.04 (As 10), span (??) m
- PA-102: Épervier was to use wings of civil PA-204 Cigale Major*
-- * Albeit high wings of PA-204 to be set low for PA-102 Épervier
- PA-102: (Project) Single-seat light ground attack & close support a/c
-- Attack variant submitted to l'Etat-Major (French General Staff)

PA-200 - (??) hypothetical designation

PA-300 - Grillon [Project] all-metal 2-seat side-by-side light a/c, 1 x 135 hp Lycoming
-- low-wing monoplane Grillon was to have a retractable tricycle u/c
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1954/1954 - 0273.html

PA-400 - (Project) 1953 Lucane light twin, optional swing-tail cargo a/c
- PA-400: Broad fuselage incorp. twin engines on either side of nose*
- PA-400: 2 x 240 hp Potez 6 D.00 6-cylinder inlines; span 14.50 m
-- * Nacelles blended into fuselage, opt'l swing-tail opened to starboard
-- https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aubert-pa-400.2115/#post-731390

PA-(??) - (Project) 1957 high-winged 6-pax transport; mixed construction
- PA-(??): Possibly designated PA-500; metal & wood constr.; retract. u/c
- PA (??): , 2 x 180-to-240 hp Lycoming HO engines; span (??) m
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1957/1957 - 1391.html

 

[Maveric]

Thanks for your list...Apophenia ;D

 

[hesham]

By the way,


the PA-204S was called PA-250 designation,as in Air Pictorial 1955 magazine.

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks for the addition Hesham. Added.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Apophenia.

 

[hesham]

My dear Apophenia,

please add those two Projects,the Aubert PA-30 & PA-40 were a twin engined medium cargo/transport
aircraft of 1936,of biplane and monoplane configurations respectively.

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks, done. Do you have a source for your clipping hesham?

 

[hesham]

Yes my dear Apophenia,

it's TU magazine issue 135.

 

[hesham]

PA-[??] - [Project] 1957 high-wing 6-pax transport, 2 x 180-240 hp Lycomings
-- composite construction (metal + wood), retractable undercarriage
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1957/1957%20-%201391.html

Also in Air Pictorial 9/1957,maybe it was PA-500 ?.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 1/1954,

here is a strange Info about two-seat PA.102 ?.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 1/1954,

here is a strange Info about two-seat PA.102 ?.

From Ailes 20/6/1953,

the Aubert PA.102 Epervier was a tandem two seat trainer/fighter monoplane Project,also the PA.100 & PA.101
were the same aircraft in TU magazine from issue 135 ?.

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks hesham. I've added the PA-102 and clarified that the PA-101 was a proposed PA-100 variant.

 

[hesham]

From Ailes 13/6/1953.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1955,

again,the PA-250.

 

[hesham]

From TU 175,

maybe those PA-80 & PA-90 Projects ?;

During the Occupation, the firm lived by manufacturing tractors
vineyards and wooden soles. From the Liberation, it is planned to
resume manufacturing of two-seater Cigalon (70 hp) and their predecessor,
the Limousine Cigale 90 hp. A variant of the Cigale, four-seater Renault 140 hp,
is also planned. Other projects are in the pipeline, including a small twin-engine
large tourism (2 x 220 hp) with considerable autonomy and a ceiling.

 

[hesham]

PA-10 -- [??] Possibly 1936 light aircraft design

Dear Apophenia,

please look to reply # 4,here;

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/paul-aubert-projects.15888/

 

[Stargazer]

More information about the unbuilt PA-400 "Lucane" multipurpose twin, from Aviation Magazine N° 78 (15 juillet 1953):

 

[hesham]

More information about the unbuilt PA-400 "Lucane" multipurpose twin, from Aviation Magazine N° 78 (15 juillet 1953):

We have it here,

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/aubert-pa-400.2115/#post-382448

 

[Stargazer]

A single-seat COIN derivative of the PA-102 "Épervier" was planned, as evidenced by this 20 June1953 item from Les Ailes N° 1429.

 

[Stargazer]

Also from the same issue of Les Ailes (N° 1429, 20 June 1953), the mention of a swing-wing airplane among the "many" projects of the Bureau d'études Paul-Aubert... I have put these projects in the "Designations" section so that they can be added to the manufacturer's list, but maybe they are more fitting in the "Postwar Projects" section...

 

[Apophenia]

Thanks Stéphane! I've added this proposed single-seat PA-102 derivative to the list and tidied up the rest of the entries.

Agreed that, since this reference to a swing-wing concept lacks a 'PA' designation, it should also be added to the Secret Postwar Aircraft Projects section.

 

[hesham]

PA-10 -- [??] Possibly 1936 light aircraft design

Or this one,

Paul Aubert's vocation for aeronautics dates back to 1908, the year he attended a meeting in Niort, where he was living at the time. He took his first flight in 1910. He then built a self-designed aircraft equipped with an Anzani engine, paid for by his grandmother. He first tried it as a glider pulled by a car, and then made a few powered jumps. The year was 1914, and our builder was in high school. In 1917, he officially began his career as a student pilot at the Caudron School in Juvisy.