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Hi,

I know my dear Flateric spoke before about it,but here is from Flightglobal.

http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/2003/2003%20-%201756.html
http://www.flightglobal.com/PDFArchive/View/2003/2003%20-%201757.html
 

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Never spoke about this. And - this is again *artist fantasy*
 

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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,953.msg8351/highlight,rlv.html#msg8351
 

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And where's a mention of *that* stuff at the thread of organizing files/papers that you've provided?
Once more - this is truly fantasy picture that every aerospace engineer will laugh of - especially regarding weird orbiter's wing.
 

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Hi,

and the NASA RLV.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2000/2000-1%20-%200027.html
 

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Hi,

also the NASA RLV.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2002/2002%20-%200582.html?search=rlv%20aircraft%202002
 

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Looks a lot like the old German Saenger TSTO.

http://www.spacefuture.com/archive/how_much_new_technology_is_required_for_future_reusable_launch_systems.shtml
(About halfway down the page.)

Also, here's a very lengthy page concerning the Blackstar TSTO and some discussion in the thread concerning borane fuel(s) that the Blackstar was rumored to burn on it's way to supersonic flight or orbit.
It might be informative and related to this thread as a TSTO.

Blackstar, if it existed, wasn't a NASA project as such, but Aviation Week set the record straight by publishing what information they were able to compile.
 

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Hi,

the Northrop/Grumman RLV.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2002/2002%20-%201405.html?search=japan%20hope%20project
 

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Hi,

http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2004/2004-00%20-%200029.html
 

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Hi,

http://www.responsivespace.com/Papers/RS2/SESSION%20PAPERS/SESSION%206/BOWCUTT/6005P.pdf
 

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Hi,

http://www.airpower.maxwell.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1970/nov-dec/holder.html
 

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hesham said:
Hi,

also the NASA RLV.
http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2002/2002%20-%200582.html?search=rlv%20aircraft%202002

This is Andrew Space and Technology Griffon.

A TSTO using air liquefaction, and LH2 fuelled turbofans.

If I remember my Air&Cosmos readings... the first stage has a rocket engine and turbofans; both burns LH2.

Turbofans use air as oxidizer, while the rocket engine need LOX.

this TSTO take off from the Cape, and fly toward the equator for 6 hours. During this time, the turbofans suck air in the atmosphere; and part of this air is converted into LOX for the rocket via a LACE system call "Alchemist".

After 6 hours, LOX tank are full, so the first stage light its rocket engine and climb to 60km and mach 6 to delivers an expendable upper stage or an internal tank orbiter.

Voila!

(any information on the "alchemist" would be welcome...
 

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The Boeing and Lockheed.
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/news/n0205/01sli/
 

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Computer graphic of Lockheed Martin X-33 Reusable Launch Vehicle (RLV) mounted
on NASA 747 ferry aircraft.
http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/Photo/X-33/HTML/ED97-43938-5.html
 

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The Boeing RLV;
http://www.geocities.com/srpsko_dnf/slike_za_korisnike_i_sve_ostal/shuttle-2nd-generation-Boeing-concept-May-2002.jpg
 

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Hi,

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20040040305_2004034508.pdf
 

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Hi,

http://www.ohio.edu/avionics/research/guidance/rlv.cfm
 

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http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2000/2000-1%20-%201689.html?search=forebody
 

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hesham said:
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http://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/2000/2000-1%20-%201689.html?search=forebody

ood, a Boeing (former Rockwell x-33 proposal) SSTO carry a X-37 on his back...
 

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Actually, the carrier stage in this illustration is a derived version of the McDonnell Douglas Delta Clipper. Rockwell had the most 'conventional' design on the X-33 competition, a classical wing body configuration with a cylindrical fuselage with circular cross section.

Martin
 

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Hi,

here is two Boeing TSTO RLVs,one with propellant crossfeed and the
other haven't.

http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20030002800_2002111035.pdf
 

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Archibald said:
This is Andrew Space and Technology Griffon.

A TSTO using air liquefaction, and LH2 fuelled turbofans.

If I remember my Air&Cosmos readings... the first stage has a rocket engine and turbofans; both burns LH2.

Turbofans use air as oxidizer, while the rocket engine need LOX.

this TSTO take off from the Cape, and fly toward the equator for 6 hours. During this time, the turbofans suck air in the atmosphere; and part of this air is converted into LOX for the rocket via a LACE system call "Alchemist".

After 6 hours, LOX tank are full, so the first stage light its rocket engine and climb to 60km and mach 6 to delivers an expendable upper stage or an internal tank orbiter.

Voila!

(any information on the "alchemist" would be welcome...

Better late than never I suppose... an interesting one this Alchemist:

A COMPARISON OF HORIZONTAL TAKEOFF RLVS FOR NEXT GENERATION SPACE TRANSPORTATION (AIAA 2003-5037) (Alchemist ACES):
http://www.andrews-space.com/images/videos/PAPERS/Pub-AComparisonofHorizontalTakeoffRLVsForNGLT(200307).pdf

PROGRESS ON ALCHEMIST ACES: TECHNOLOGY FOR NEXT GENERATION SPACE TRANSPORTATION (AIAA 2003-4890):
http://www.andrews-space.com/images/videos/PAPERS/Pub-ProgressOnACES-TechnologyForNextGenerationSpaceTransportation(200307).pdf

Small contract awarded ('Andrews Awarded DARPA/AFRL Contract to Demonstrate In-Flight Propellant Generation For Advanced Space Transportation'):
http://www.andrews-space.com/news.php?subsection=MjA1

'Air Collection and Enrichment System (ACES)' present in FY2008 R-2 Exhibit dated Feb 2007 (www.dtic.mil/descriptivesum/Y2008/DARPA/0603287E.pdf) under Space Programs and Technology PE 0603287E (but not in FY2009 or FY2010).
 

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I remember the alchemist from the SLI days.

Andrews Space is a Boeing Seattle space offshoot, no?

Founded in 1999 and they quickly got NASA contracts. Seems quite quiet at the moment though. They got Kistler work that didn't turn out well, they also lost with their COTS proposal.

Dr. Dana Andrews, Chief Technology Officer
Dr. Dana Andrews joined Andrews Space as Chief Technology Officer. Prior to joining Andrews Space, Dr. Andrews worked at The Boeing Company as Director of Reusable Launch Systems for Boeing Phantom Works, where he oversaw the Boeing TSTO RLV, Future X, Military Space Plane, and Solar-Thermal Orbital Transfer Vehicle (SOTV) Programs. He was Chief Engineer for the Boeing side of the McDonnell/Boeing team for the X-33/RLV program. He also managed the Boeing Air-Launch Studies, and initiated and led the Boeing team for the Commercial Space Transportation Study (CSTS). Prior to that Dr. Andrews was Program Manager for the BMDO SSTO Study, Functional Manager of Aerodynamics for the Boeing Aerospace Group, Boeing Habitation module Manager for the International Space Station Program, and Program Manager for the Aero-Assisted Orbital Transfer Vehicle (AOTV).
 

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Comparison of Vertical and Horizontal Takeoff Hybrid Launch
Systems to Address Responsive Space Needs

An AIAA paper from Andrews on using Gryphon for ORS missions.

https://www.afresearch.org/skins/rims/q_mod_be0e99f3-fc56-4ccb-8dfe-670c0822a153/q_act_downloadpaper/q_obj_51679c2c-ea39-41f3-ba37-f5dde06a918d/display.aspx?rs=enginespage
 

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The Northrop Grumman RLV,notice the six-engined flying wing
aircraft.

http://books.google.com.eg/books?id=gwAAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA81&dq=boeing+hypersonic&hl=ar&ei=HlwrTLe4DIKTsQbxyKjEBA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=26&ved=0CKIBEOgBMBk#v=onepage&q&f=true
 

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hesham said:
The Northrop Grumman RLV,notice the six-engined flying wing
aircraft.
Very interesting indeed. Thanks Hesham!
Is there more information available elsewhere on this NG RLV/flying wing project?
 

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