Morane-Saulnier MS.406, Variants, Projects, Derivatives & Successors

airman said:
I love sons of Ms-406 by swiss part B)

first time I red about what the Swiss did to the Morane, I thought it was a joke. They really turned a donkey (MS-406) into a thoroughbred(D-3803)

What Saurer did with the 12Y31 is equally amazing. They raised power all the way from 830 hp to 1430 hp. nealry twice as much !

Only the soviets got similar results, turnng the 12Y into the M-100 / M-103 / M-105 family.

In turn, it drives me nuts that French pilots of 1940 had to fight 1100 hp Me-109s with only 860 hp engines.
 
Some images have already mentioned the Finnish "Mörkö-Morane": a conversion with captured Klimov M-105P engines, for much better performance than stock MS.406.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morane-Saulnier_M.S.406#M%C3%B6rk%C3%B6-Morane

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Hai

Has there ever be bombracks etc. used and under with planes, Finish, Swiss?

Plaese pictures/ Drawings?

Thanks
 
Jjr said:
Hai

Has there ever be bombracks etc. used and under with planes, Finish, Swiss?

Plaese pictures/ Drawings?

Thanks

Postwar Swiss D-3801 aircraft carried rocket launchers for ground attack.
 

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Returning to an older message, I have a feeling that the MS 407LPs (LP for lance parachute), while used to test the opening of parachutes at high speed, did not carry an actual parachutist or life size dummy.

The French seemingly used a few such aircraft, a single Dewoitine D504LP, a derivative of the D500, being a case in point.

In Canada, a predecessor of the Fleet 60 Canuck light plane, the Noury Nourycraft, was modified to drop test parachutes in 1942.

There is also some info on the drop testing of parachutes in Canada by Irvin Air Chute, during the Second World War, at https://www.warplane.com/aircraft/collection/details.aspx?aircraftId=20
 
M.S. 408 C1 emergency fighter
In 1935 the firm Morane-Saulnier decided to develop a two-seat trainer to facilitate the transition of the pilots from the Dewoitine D.510 to the M.S.405 with retractable landing gear. The first prototype, called M.S.430-01, flew at 360 kph in March 1937, powered by a 390 hp. Salmson 9Ag radial engine. In June 1939 l’Armée de l'Air ordered the production of 60 units under the name M.S.435 P2 (Perfectionnement biplace), powered by a 550 hp Gnôme-Rhône GR 9 Kdrs radial engine, but the acceleration of the production of the M.S.406 and M.S.410 fighters and the acquisition of the North American 57 and 64 trainers in the USA led to the cancellation of the M.S.435.

Foreseeing the possibility of a serious delay in the production of the Hispano-Suiza H.S.12 Y-31 engine, the firm considered the construction of M.S.408 C.1 single-seat light fighter, powered by a radial engine GR 9 Kdrs or a Hispano-Suiza 14 Aa-10 armed with only wing mounted MAC 34A machine guns. The prototype M.S.408-01, with 10.71 m wingspan, was built using many parts of the M.S.430 and a Salmson 9 Ag engine, but the increasing availability of the 12Y-31 dismissed its serial production.
 

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About the D-3802 there is written at the forum, its an improved version.
No, the 3800/3801 had tubes fuselage, covered with metal/fabric, but the 3802/3803 was new, it had a monocoque fuselage.
It had only some looks of the old 405/406 but is was a new construction design.
 
Hi Jenz,
In French milirary designation "c1" want to say
C = chasseur, 1 = crew 1 pilot
another example
"b5"
B = bombardier, 5 = crew 5 persons
Bye
I would like to ask where I can find the details of “C1 design“ ;)
 
Kuno said:
"First was the MS-540 that went to Switzerland and become the 3802, which flew in September 1944. Then there was that MS-640, that might be related to the D-3803, the ultimate Morane."

Appologize for my uneducated questions...

A) Would somebody know, how the MS-540 came to Switzerland? Was it as a prototype, disassembled parts or only as drawings and calculations?

B) When did the 2transfer" of the MS-540 to Switzerland actually happen? I cannot imagine that this was done after the Germans had invaded France... or was it done via "Vichy France"?

C) Why would any further developement, in particular the D3803 still have an "MS"-designation... I assume that nobody/nothing from Morane-Saulnier was involved in this development - or am I entirely wrong?

According to "Morane-Saulnier, ses avions, ses projets", Henry Lacaze, Lela Presse, 2013 :

A + B ) No prototype, no disassembled parts, probably the complete drawings (nothing about calculations). Morane Personnel were present in Altenrhein to the beginning of 1943. D-3802 was a mix between MS 406, MS 540 project and other options. The choices were made by Dr Studer, chief engineer of Doflug.

C ) It seems that the Morane personnel were not involved in the D-3803. And, except for the engine, the D-3803 seems to be more an evolution of the D-3802, than a materialisation of the MS 640 project. The date of the MS 640's drawing is not known.

Sorry, Deltafan, only today I see your answer to my questions - Thank you very much. The story of these aircraft in Altenrhein has never been told in detail, as far as I know... a real pity that neither a D-3802 nor the D-3803 was kept for display in a museum :-(
 
Most interesting development of Morane 406 , imho , were MS-640 and swiss development of MS-540 . :cool:
Switzerland (6 May 1940 to 4 February 1945)


Following the Munich Agreement, in September 1938, Switzerland acquired ten Messerschmitt Bf 109 D-1 and eighty Bf 109 E-3 fighters. The first five D-1 aircraft were delivered by mid-December 1938 and the other five a month later. Everyone was armed only with a pair of 7.45 mm MG 29 machine guns fitted in the front fuselage.

On 30 April, thirty Bf 109 E-3 were delivered, followed by fifty units more on 31 August. Also in September 1938, Switzerland acquired the manufacturing license of the Morane-Saulnier M.S.406, together with two full aircraft. The export version, M.S.406H, kept the M.S.405 wings and the engine H.S.12 Y-31. It was armed with only two drum-fed MAC 34 machine guns because the French did not want to share the technology of the 20 mm H.S. 404 cannon.

Between 1940 and 1942, the State factory F+W-Emmen built a series of seventy-four fighters known as D-3800. The Swiss version of the M.S.406 was powered by an 860 hp H.S.12 Y-77 engine, licence-built by Adolph Saurer AG, driving an Escher-Wyss EW V-3 controllable pitch propeller. The armament, built by Waffenfabrik Bern, consisted of a 20 mm Oerlikon FM-K cannon and two 7.5 mm Furrer Fl.Mg.29 belt-fed machine guns. The D-3800 came into service at the beginning of 1940, with a SE-013 R/T device and Draeger oxygen equipment.

Three days before the invasion of Poland, the Swiss Air Force was mobilized with fifty-eight Dewoitine D-27 C.1 (312 kph), ten Messerschmitt Bf 109 D-1 (470 kph), thirty Bf 109 E-3 (570 kph) fighters and hundred-and-twenty-seven observation aircraft of the type Fokker C.V and EKW C-35. When the Germans began their assault to the West, on 10 May 1940, the Swiss Air Force had thirty-six D-3800 and the number of Bf 109 E-3 already amounted to seventy-eight. In May and June, the Swiss airspace was violated 3 times by the French, 10 times by the Italians and 233 times by the Germans.

The Swiss fighters entered combat for the first time on 16 May. Between that date and 4 February 1945, they managed to shoot down one Dornier Do 17, five Heinkel He 111, six Messerschmitt Bf 110, two Avro Lancaster, one Boeing B-17, one Dornier Do 217, two Consolidated B-24, one De Havilland Mosquito, one Fiat R.S.14, two Republic P-47 and one Junkers Ju 52/3m. They also faced 6,501 violations of airspace during which 198 aircraft were interned and 56 crashed.

In combat, the Bf 109 E-3 were superior in speed and manoeuvrability to the Bf 110 C of the Luftwaffe that were frequently forced to use the tactic Abwehrkreiss (Defence Circle). In April 1944 the Germans yielded twelve Bf 109 G-6 to the Swiss Air Force, in exchange for the destruction of the electronic equipment of an interned Bf 110 G-4 night fighter.

In 1942 the EKW C-35 began to be replaced by the new EKW C-3603 (470 kph) heavy fighter. Its main purpose was to patrol the border violations of Swiss neutrality to force the intruders landing for internment. A night fighter squadron was formed in 1944.

A total of hundred-and-fifty-two C-3603 were manufactured between 1942 and 1944.

German hostility forced the Swiss to depend on fighters of their own manufacture. In 1939 Saurer began the manufacture under license of the 1,020 hp H.S.12 Y-51 French engine to improve the performances of the D-3800. Between October 1939 and December 1942, the companies Doflug-Altenrhein and SWS-Schlieren manufactured 207 units of the improved version D-3801. According to some sources, it was the Swiss version of the Morane-Saulnier M.S.412 C-1.

The new fighter was 33 kph faster and was equipped with armoured windshield and dorsal plate, SE-012 R/T device and Swiss Munerelle Agm 40 oxygen equipment. At the end of 1943 the Swiss Air Force had eleven Flieger Kompagnien equipped with D-3800 and D-3801 fighters. After the June 1940 armistice the French continued improving the Morane fighters and their engines in Switzerland and Spain.

At the beginning of 1943 the drawings of M.S.460 C.1 (1939), M.S.540 C.1 (1941) and M.S.640 C.1 (1940) fighter projects and of the H.S.12 Z-17 experimental engine, were delivered to the Swiss by Morane-Saulnier personnel that collaborated with Dr. Studer, chief engineer of Doflug, in the design of the D-3802 (640 kph) the Swiss version of the M.S.540. Possibly also included were parts of the M.S.450 prototype for the study of their manufacturing techniques.

The D-3802 was powered by a 1,230 hp H.S.12Y-89 (Saurer YS-2) driving a four-bladed Escher-Wyss EW V-8 constant-speed propeller with reverse pitch. It conserved the wing structure of the D-3801 but with the Plymax, replaced with all-aluminium covering, glycol radiators under the wings, Fowler type flaps and variable-incidence tailplane. The armament consisted of one 20 mm. H.S. 404 T.I cannon and four 7.5 mm Fl.Mg.24 machine guns.

Four aircraft were manufactured in 1944, as prototypes of the production model D-3802A, the Swiss version of the M.S.550 with squared wingtips, bulged canopy and three H.S. 404 cannons. Only eleven copies were built between 1946 and 1950.

The D-3803, described as M.S. 560 by some authors, with modified dorsal fuselage, all-round visibility canopy and 1,430 hp Saurer YS-3 engine, was built as a prototype only in 1947. Its mass production was dismissed after the acquisition of hundred-and-thirty war-surplus P-51D Mustangs.



Bibliography


Books

Green, W., Warplanes of the Second World War, Fighters, Volume One, (MacDonald 1960)

Publications

Guttman, J., “Switzerland’s two-seater soldiered through World War II”, Aviation History, July 1998.

Gunti, P., “Morane Sur l’Helvetie”, IPMS Schweiz magazine, Xe Anniversaire issue.

Gaudet, E., “A Dream Come true”, Aeroplane, June 2002.

Gunti, P., “Alpine Avenger”, Air/Enthusiast Forty-Seven.

Gunti, P., “Neutral Warriors”, Air/Enthusiast Forty-Three.

Théroz, J., “Bataille au dessus des Alpes”, Le Fanatique de l’Aviation nº 36.

Meister, J., “The Swiss Battle of Britain”, World War Investigator, July 1988.

Moulin, J., “Un project de chasseur Morane-Saulnier M.S. 640”, l’Aérophile 2010.

Moulin, J., “Un project de chasseur Morane-Saulnier M.S. 540”, l’Aérophile 2010.

Klein, B., “Morane-Saulnier M.S. 460”, Airplanes Five-View Album, 1974.

Osche, P., “Swiss Bf 109”, SAFO nº 49, January 1989.
 

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Hola Justo,

in picture 069, the caption "MS 506 C1 / D-3801", isn't it a typo for MS 406 C1 ?
 
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yes, I mean the 5 in 506 should be a 4.
MS 506 and MS 540 could be export administrative codes, perhaps Spain, Poland or Lithuanian???

The Swiss D-3801 was assigned the Morane designation MS.412.

The MS 506 was the designation of a postwar, experimental Criquet variant powered by an Astazou turboprop (MS 506L when fitted with a Lycoming).
 
@ Justo - I very much like your summary regarding the Swiss Airforce. Please let me point on some errors (as far as I know):

"In 1942 the EKW C-35 began to be replaced by the new EKW C-3603 (470 kph) heavy fighter. Its main purpose was to patrol the border violations of Swiss neutrality to force the intruders landing for internment. A night fighter squadron was formed in 1944."
  1. The C-36' s purpose was reconnaissance and ground attack., not heavy fighter.
  2. The Siwss airforce did not have a "night fighter" squadron as such, to attack allied bombers as the Germans did - the "Nacht Geschwader" was equipped with obsolete C-35 biplanes, the idea was also ground attack, to avoid these old aircraft to be exposed to modern dayfighters... I cannot say if this idea actually worked because (luckily) it had never to be proven in anger.

"In April 1944 the Germans yielded twelve Bf 109 G-6 to the Swiss Air Force, in exchange for the destruction of the electronic equipment of an interned Bf 110 G-4 night fighter."
  1. Small correction on this: The twelve Bf 109 G-6 were not delivered in exchange of the destruction of the Bf 110 night fighter, but in fact the Swiss could buy twelve Bf 109 G-6 after the agreed to explode the whole Bf 110 in presence of German officers.

"The D-3803, described as M.S. 560 by some authors, with modified dorsal fuselage, all-round visibility canopy and 1,430 hp Saurer YS-3 engine, was built as a prototype only in 1947. Its mass production was dismissed after the acquisition of hundred-and-thirty war-surplus P-51D Mustangs"
  1. This is also not correct. After the decision was made to purchase de Havilland jet-fighters, all further development on Swiss propeller fighters was halted, orders already placed were cancelled with good reason. To cover the gap until the jet fighters were available in numbers, 130 used P-51D were purchased instead.
 
@ Justo - I very much like your summary regarding the Swiss Airforce. Please let me point on some errors (as far as I know):

"In 1942 the EKW C-35 began to be replaced by the new EKW C-3603 (470 kph) heavy fighter. Its main purpose was to patrol the border violations of Swiss neutrality to force the intruders landing for internment. A night fighter squadron was formed in 1944."
  1. The C-36' s purpose was reconnaissance and ground attack., not heavy fighter.
  2. The Siwss airforce did not have a "night fighter" squadron as such, to attack allied bombers as the Germans did - the "Nacht Geschwader" was equipped with obsolete C-35 biplanes, the idea was also ground attack, to avoid these old aircraft to be exposed to modern dayfighters... I cannot say if this idea actually worked because (luckily) it had never to be proven in anger.

"In April 1944 the Germans yielded twelve Bf 109 G-6 to the Swiss Air Force, in exchange for the destruction of the electronic equipment of an interned Bf 110 G-4 night fighter."
  1. Small correction on this: The twelve Bf 109 G-6 were not delivered in exchange of the destruction of the Bf 110 night fighter, but in fact the Swiss could buy twelve Bf 109 G-6 after the agreed to explode the whole Bf 110 in presence of German officers.

"The D-3803, described as M.S. 560 by some authors, with modified dorsal fuselage, all-round visibility canopy and 1,430 hp Saurer YS-3 engine, was built as a prototype only in 1947. Its mass production was dismissed after the acquisition of hundred-and-thirty war-surplus P-51D Mustangs"
  1. This is also not correct. After the decision was made to purchase de Havilland jet-fighters, all further development on Swiss propeller fighters was halted, orders already placed were cancelled with good reason. To cover the gap until the jet fighters were available in numbers, 130 used P-51D were purchased instead.
OK, thanks for sharing :)
 
Hi! MS.450.
"The Morane-Saulnier M.S.450 was an improved version of the M.S.406 developed for a French fighter requirement of 1937 but that didn't enter production. It was developed in response to a C1 (single seat fighter) requirement issued by the Service Technique Aéronautique on 27 February 1937.
The M.S.450 used more up-to-date construction methods than the M.S.406. The earlier aircraft had a tubular metal framework, covered with fabric at the rear and Plymax (plywood bonded to aluminium) at the front. The M.S.450 had a dural monocoque fuselage, although retained the Plymax covering for the wings. It was powered by the 1,050hp Hispano-Suiza 12Y51 (also used on the M.S.412/ D-3801 produced in Switzerland). The M.S.450 was armed with one engine mounted 20mm cannon and two wing mounted machine guns. The M.S.450 was very similar in appearance to the M.S.406,
The M.S.450 lost out to the Dewoitine D.520. The D.520 was ordered into production a month before the first M.S.450 made its maiden flight on 14 April 1939. Work on the M.S.450 continued and a second prototype made its maiden flight in November 1939.
Work on the design continued in Switzerland, where a small number of more refined aircraft were produced as the Doflug D-3802 (M.S.540) , followed by one example of the post-war Doflug D-3803. "

Two MS 450 02 pictures on an unidentified airfield. DSCN0849bbb - Copie.jpg
 
"D'abord, le MS-540 qui est allé en Suisse et qui est devenu le 3802, qui a volé en septembre 1944. Ensuite, il y a eu ce MS-640, qui pourrait être lié au D-3803, l'ultime Morane."

Excusez-moi pour mes questions sans éducation...

A) Quelqu'un saurait-il comment le MS-540 est arrivé en Suisse ? Était-ce sous forme de prototype, de pièces démontées ou uniquement sous forme de dessins et de calculs ?

B) Quand le 2transfert" du MS-540 vers la Suisse s'est-il réellement produit ? Je ne peux pas imaginer que cela ait été fait après que les Allemands aient envahi la France... ou s'est-il fait via "Vichy France" ?

C) Pourquoi un développement ultérieur, en particulier le D3803 aurait-il toujours une désignation "MS"... Je suppose que personne/rien de Morane-Saulnier n'a été impliqué dans ce développement - ou est-ce que je me trompe complètement ?
J'ai construit un MS540 basé sur un Doflug 3802. Bel avion.
 

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Magnifique ! On dirait qu'un MS-406 a passé une nuit torride avec un D-520.
(seems like a MS-406 got a lurid one-night-stand with a D-520).

Pilot visibility at takeoff and landing... hugh... what a nose.

"C'est un roc... c'est un cap... que dis-je, c'est un cap... c'est une péninsule !"
 
From Green and Swanborough's Complete Book of Fighters:
  • MS 405 Original design, a pre-production batch made. Hispano-Suiza HS 12Y engine. All subsequent types were derived directly from this airframe and engine.
  • MS 406 Production version.
  • MS 406H. Re-engined MS 405. Two examples supplied to Switzerland, where it was manufactured under license as the Doflug D-3800.*
  • MS 410 Improved 406. Some retained the semi-retractable radiator, others had a new fixed installation.
  • MS 411 A single converted 405 with yet more powerful engine and fixed radiator.
  • MS 412 Based on the 411. None built in France, but manufactured under license in Switzerland, as the Doflug D-3801.*
  • Mörkö (Ghost) Finland modified their MS 406 and 410 stock, including re-engining with a Klimov M-105P which was derived as ever from the HS 12Y.
  • MS 450 Major redesign, though looking externally quite similar.
  • MS 540 Swiss prototype variant of the 412 or 450 (source contradicts itself), built as the Doflug D-3802.*
  • D-3802A Pre-production version.
  • D-3803 Prototype variant of the 540 with bubble canopy and cut-down rear fuselage. Flew postwar.
* To add some Swiss detail to the above tale. The Swiss engines were for the most part manufactured under license by Saurer, a big engineering conglomerate. After production and development at the parent Hispano-Suiza factory in France was terminated under Nazi rule, Saurer continued development of the design. As I already posted in another thread:
The Saurer YS-2 and YS-3 were developed versions of the Hispano-Suiza HS77 12Y51 (also known as the HS51-12Y), with increased output.
EKW license-built the Morane-Saulnier 450 as the C-36 series, re-engining a small batch with the 1,245 hp YS-2 as the C-3604. Today, D-FEKW is a C-3603 restored as an airworthy C-3604. (See Aeroplane, Aug 2021, p.10.) Unfortunately the restoration involved re-engining with a Merlin as its physical size and power rating are similar to the Saurer (which one might suggest says a lot for the Saurer).
Doflug (Dornier's Swiss branch) similarly licensed the MS.406 as the D-38 series. Variants included around 12 D-3802 with the YS-2, followed by development of the D-3803 with the improved YS-3.
 
"D'abord, le MS-540 qui est allé en Suisse et qui est devenu le 3802, qui a volé en septembre 1944. Ensuite, il y a eu ce MS-640, qui pourrait être lié au D-3803, l'ultime Morane."

Excusez-moi pour mes questions sans éducation...

A) Quelqu'un saurait-il comment le MS-540 est arrivé en Suisse ? Était-ce sous forme de prototype, de pièces démontées ou uniquement sous forme de dessins et de calculs ?

B) Quand le 2transfert" du MS-540 vers la Suisse s'est-il réellement produit ? Je ne peux pas imaginer que cela ait été fait après que les Allemands aient envahi la France... ou s'est-il fait via "Vichy France" ?

C) Pourquoi un développement ultérieur, en particulier le D3803 aurait-il toujours une désignation "MS"... Je suppose que personne/rien de Morane-Saulnier n'a été impliqué dans ce développement - ou est-ce que je me trompe complètement ?
J'ai construit un MS540 basé sur un Doflug 3802. Bel avion.
Malheureusement, le canon n’est pas bien centré sur l’axe de l’hélice:(
Malheureusement, la forme de l’antenne ventrale n’est pas correcte
Le schéma de peinture choisi représente le MS.406 C1, série 2 (N132) piloté par le commandant Maurice Arnoux, mais sa marque personnelle, une étoile dans un cercle, n’a pas été incluse. Malheureusement, il n’a pas été inclus le numéro deux peint en blanc sur l’aile gauche, comme d’habitude sur les avions de la 6 escadrille, GC III/7.
 

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Évolution du morane
MS 460
Post-3
Malheureusement, le dessin de justo miranda n'est pas exact. Par exemple la forme de l'aile est fausse.
Source
 

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"D'abord, le MS-540 qui est allé en Suisse et qui est devenu le 3802, qui a volé en septembre 1944. Ensuite, il ya eu ce MS-640, qui pourrait être lié au D-3803, l'ultime Morane."

Excusez-moi pour mes questions sans éducation...

A) Quelqu'un sait-il commenter le MS-540 est arrivé en Suisse ? Était-ce sous forme de prototype, de pièces démontées ou uniquement sous forme de dessins et de calculs ?

B) Quand le 2transfert" du MS-540 vers la Suisse s'est-il réellement produit ? Je ne peux pas imaginer que cela a été fait après que les Allemands aient envahi la France... ou s'est-il fait via "Vichy France" ?

C) Pourquoi un développement ultérieur, en particulier le D3803 aurait-il toujours une désignation "MS"... Je suppose que personne/rien de Morane-Saulnier n'a été impliqué dans ce développement - ou est-ce que je me trompe complètement ?
J'ai construit un MS540 basé sur un Doflug 3802. Bel avion.
Malheureusement, le canon n'est pas bien centré sur l'axe de l'hélice:(
Malheureusement, la forme de l'antenne ventrale n'est pas correcte
Le schéma de peinture choisi représente le MS.406 C1, série 2 (N132) piloté par le commandant Maurice Arnoux, mais sa marque personnelle, une étoile dans un cercle, n'a pas été incluse. Malheureusement, il n'a pas été inclus le numéro deux peint en blanc sur l'aile gauche, comme d'habitude sur les avions de l'escadrille 6, GC III/7.
You're right but this plane is not a MS 406. In this what if world the markings would have been different of what it was the 1940.
 
Évolution du morane
MS 460
Post-3
Malheureusement, le dessin de justo miranda n'est pas exact. Par exemple la forme de l'aile est fausse.
La source
The source is the MS 540 and Miranda's drawing is a MS 460 (completely false.) Here the true MS 460
 

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Évolution du morane
MS 460
Post-3
Malheureusement, le dessin de justo miranda n'est pas exact. Par exemple la forme de l'aile est fausse.
La source
The source is the MS 540 and Miranda's drawing is a MS 460 (completely false.) Here the true MS 460
Why?
Source (no Lela Presse)
 

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Évolution du morane
MS 460
Post-3
Malheureusement, le dessin de justo miranda n'est pas exact. Par exemple la forme de l'aile est fausse.
La source
The source is the MS 540 and Miranda's drawing is a MS 460 (completely false.) Here the true MS 460
L’envergure de votre modèle 540 est excessive, le « Vert foncée » est trop clair et les canons des mitrailleuses sont hors de l’échelle:(
 
Évolution du morane
MS 460
Post-3
Malheureusement, le dessin de justo miranda n'est pas exact. Par exemple la forme de l'aile est fausse.
La source
La source est le MS 540 et le dessin de Miranda est un MS 460 (complètement faux.) Ici le vrai MS 460
L'envergure de votre modèle 540 est excessive, le « Vert foncée » est trop clair et les canons des mitrailleuses sont hors de l'échelle:(
Chers gens. N'oubliez pas que l'uchronie est une fantaisie. Qui sait comment aurait été les camouflages français en 1942/43 ? Je veux dire sans Vichy ? J'ai donc réalisé un camouflage fantaisie inspiré du MS 450 mais avec des couleurs légèrement différentes. Plus clair.
Ce n'est donc pas une erreur.
Concernant le kit, j'ai modifié un modèle RS Doflug 3802. Peut-être que ce kit n'est pas précis mais c'est le plus proche possible.
Peut-être d'autres erreurs (6 pistolets au lieu de 4) mais cela me prend 6 mois pour terminer et à la fin je suis fatigué ;)
Nevertheless it must be the first time someone gives life to a MS 540. I hope some other modellers would improve their work thanks to mine
 
Et cher Justo Miranda, je suis un grand fan de votre travail. J'ai une grande quantité de vos livres.
Merci de nous donner un nouveau dessin MS460 !
 
Flieger Flab Museum Dübendorf, Models 1:40 of the D-3800, D-3802 and D-3803
 

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