I return to this topic to submit members two very probable identifications of model tested at langley during the TFX competition and previously noted as "unknown". It's my fault not having linked the model drawings with some very well known model photos :-[. In my defence I have to remark that no-one seems to having done it... :. Except Scott, regarding the Configuration 403. In eAPR V1N2 he correctily singles out the possibile identity, pointing out some difference in the cockpit area. I agree, but I think the rest of the plane is so siliar that probably that derives from some "tuning", either by NASA or Convair; or it could be a sub-configuration.
I'll repost the drawings with the correct (IMHO) identification.
First is General Dynamics/Convair Configuration 430. It is the first from the right in the well known photo of FGD TFX wind-tunnel model. the following three photos are of the model in the tunnel from different angles. And the fourth is a detail from a larger photos with a display model of same configuration. I think that the match is near to perfect, and such to allow certainity. See picture 7 for a slightly different configuration 430-like: slender and with different wingtips.
Another couple of them, same source.Hi! CL-590 mockup pictures.
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Lockheed CL-590 Mockup Photo | #422578724
These are 11 X 8.5 photos of the Lockheed project CL-590-1 which was the Lockheed entry in the TFX program that ultimately became the F-111. Little seems to known about this as the extensive design dwww.worthpoint.com
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Lockheed CL-590 TFX /F-111 Mockup photos | #497454625
The Lockheed CL-590 was the Lockheed factory's attempt to win the TFX USAF/Navy contract that eventually became the F-111. These are three factory photos 8 X11.5 and are a bit clearer than my attemptwww.worthpoint.com
Only this one is real picture of Boeing 818N
Evening gents
I am going through some of my older files and came across this picture.
The only thing I have written is - 'Mock-up of early Model 818 designed to USAF SOR-183 competition'. My file shows that I saved it in 2008 (but I have no recollection or its source!!)
Regards
Pioneer
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Thanks for your reply JFC Fuller.Evening gents
I am going through some of my older files and came across this picture.
The only thing I have written is - 'Mock-up of early Model 818 designed to USAF SOR-183 competition'. My file shows that I saved it in 2008 (but I have no recollection or its source!!)
Regards
Pioneer
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I have seen a suggestion that this mock-up may represent the 818-202 design. That it was built in mock-up form suggests it was a very serious study, perhaps an early submission, either against the un-issued October 1960 SOR.183 Request for Proposal or as an Air Force specific offering against the September 1961 RFP?
Has any more information on this come to light?
What is sor/gor-183 and what are the 818-202 design?Thanks for your reply JFC Fuller.Evening gents
I am going through some of my older files and came across this picture.
The only thing I have written is - 'Mock-up of early Model 818 designed to USAF SOR-183 competition'. My file shows that I saved it in 2008 (but I have no recollection or its source!!)
Regards
Pioneer
View attachment 107487
I have seen a suggestion that this mock-up may represent the 818-202 design. That it was built in mock-up form suggests it was a very serious study, perhaps an early submission, either against the un-issued October 1960 SOR.183 Request for Proposal or as an Air Force specific offering against the September 1961 RFP?
Has any more information on this come to light?
No unfortunately, nothing from my end.
Regards
Pioneer
What is sor/gor-183 and what are the 818-202 design?