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Starting this new topic as the other thread seems exclusively dedicated to transports
http://www.vstol.org/GermanVSTOLFighters.pdf
 

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Hi everybody.
Here a good PDF (94MB) about VFW and Focke Wulf VTOLs.
"Senkrechtstarter bei Focke Wulf und VFW“
http://www.fzt.haw-hamburg.de/pers/Scholz/dglr/hh/Veranstaltungen-1-04.html
For example it shows some early tailsitter designs, the FW-960 and the
Focke Wulf VTOL “Erdkampfflugzeuge” P.1271 – P.1278.
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Excellent document. Thank you for the link.
 

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The Fw 860 was a project in collaboration with SNECMA AP 509. Looking at the earlier Fw tailsitter
designs and comparing them to the SNECMA tailsitter shown by Jean Cuny as a kind of alternative
to the Coleopter, I somewhat get the feeling, that co-operation between these two companies already
started eralier.
That paper is a great find indeed , thank you !
 

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And a more drawings to FW.960;
 

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Hi,


here is the Messerschmitt P.1227.
 

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The VAK 191 B started life as the Focke-Wulf Fw 1262.

Ende 1963 wurde die Focke-Wulf FW1262 (VAK 191B) als Sieger ausgewählt. Die Konkurrenten waren
  • die Hawker P.1127 (VAK 191A),
  • die EWR EK 421 (VAK 191C) und
  • die FIAT G.95/4 (VAK 191D).
source http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/VFW-Fokker_VAK_191_B
 

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hesham said:
And a more drawings to FW.960;

Is this version not a tail-sitter? Also, are those retractable lift engines that can also produce forward thrust?
 

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Avimimus said:
hesham said:
And a more drawings to FW.960;

Is this version not a tail-sitter? Also, are those retractable lift engines that can also produce forward thrust?


My dear Avimimus,


it was a tail-sitter fighter,and the retractable lift engines made a forward thrust as I think.
 

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So, do you think they were retractable to improve cruise efficiency (i.e. by hiding the fan from the airflow once the engines were turned off)?
 

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Avimimus said:
... are those retractable lift engines that can also produce forward thrust?

In the drawing they are called "ausklappbare Hubtriebwerke" (foldout lift engines),
so I think, they were only meant for take-off/landing.
 
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