From 1987 - Kaman Aerospace Corp. tank destroyer with electromagnetic gun.

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Design used a coil gun rather than a railgun.
 

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With Star Wars project running in full, you always think where you can use these tech on Earth...coilgun MBT was thought to be a nice idea those years.

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when ı attempt to make a joke , it is hard on the recipients but with the kind of the barrel in the second picture you can definitely reach hostile capitals from your border , without firing .
 

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Do railgun/coilgun-armed main battle tanks require large amounts of electricity? How can this idea be practical in an MBT?
 

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Triton said:
Do railgun/coilgun-armed main battle tanks require large amounts of electricity? How can this idea be practical in an MBT?

Not "large" amounts of electricity....more like absolute hu-fu*****-mongous amounts of electricity ;)

As I understand it though, the main issue with railguns is not generating the energy, but rather the power levels (i.e. energy pr. unit time), that is, to deliver the energy to the gun quickly enough. We can, of course, always hope that the Japanese will come up with a superconductor that works at desert temperatures.

To say nothing of the EMP that would be generated when firing one of those babies.... ;D

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Regarding energy - my quick calculations get about 7MJ muzzle energy for a Russian 3BM-42M APFSDS penetrator. Assuming some overall efficiency of 50% that;s 14MJ, which can be supplied over 10 seconds by a 1.4MW power plant. According to Wikipedia the M-1 powerplant is just over 1.1MW...

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flateric said:
Source: Inernational Combat Arms

This was a great magazine. Too bad it was cancelled years ago and no similar replacement has been made. :(

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RP1 said:
Regarding energy - my quick calculations get about 7MJ muzzle energy for a Russian 3BM-42M APFSDS penetrator. Assuming some overall efficiency of 50% that;s 14MJ, which can be supplied over 10 seconds by a 1.4MW power plant. According to Wikipedia the M-1 powerplant is just over 1.1MW...

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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3364.0.html

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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,4537.0.html

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Interesting, but but but... I wasn't saying that railguns were impossible - quite the opposite. Offhand, ISTR that a Eurodyn GTA set will happily pump out 3.6MW and it's probably not much bigger than a tank power pack.

RE the Wright machine - that appears to be the generator itself, not the prime mover.

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Add-on: second pic (square gun) is not Kaman's, it's UK RARDE (Royal Armament Research Development Establishment) rail gun concept.
 

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Lauge said:
Triton said:
Do railgun/coilgun-armed main battle tanks require large amounts of electricity? How can this idea be practical in an MBT?

Not "large" amounts of electricity....more like absolute hu-fu*****-mongous amounts of electricity ;)

As I understand it though, the main issue with railguns is not generating the energy, but rather the power levels (i.e. energy pr. unit time), that is, to deliver the energy to the gun quickly enough. We can, of course, always hope that the Japanese will come up with a superconductor that works at desert temperatures.

To say nothing of the EMP that would be generated when firing one of those babies.... ;D

Regards & all

Thomas L. Nielsen
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AFAIK only capacitors can supply enough electric energy at an instant for something like that. And they are not very mass efficient. Usually stationary railguns etc require huge capacitor banks.
So you need
1) A power source (tank engine) and fuel for it (diesel/gasoline)
2) A generator
3) A capacitor bank

Storing the energy chemically is much nicer in so many ways, like in conventional guns. It is directly transferable to pressure which is then changed to kinetic energy.
 

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