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Hi folks,

I know the F-105 did have an internal weapons bay, but that it was only ever used to carry fuel. I have never seen photos of this weapons bay open though - does anyone have any photos or similar showing it?

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I'm confused here. I know the F-105 routinely carried an external fuel-tank underneath the bomb-bay, did it carry an extra fuel-tank in the bomb-bay (or on models where it was deleted, extra fuel capacity in lieu of the tank?)


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The internal bay could carry either a MK28 nuke (AFAIK that's the only one the planned to use in that bay) or a fuel tank but mostly they just used it to carry the fuel tank. All F-105s had the bays.
 

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Wow, that's a lot of extra fuel (a fuel tank in the bay, and then a pylon fitted onto the door of the bays carrying another tank)... No wonder the Thud had such long low-speed supersonic range.


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IIRC the F-111 & B-1Bs can also carry tanks in their bays as well. The one in the F-105's was 375 gallons.
 

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Just call me Ray said:
In this photo you can (barely) see what appear to be bomb bay doors

http://www.militaryfactory.com/aircraft/imgs/f105_2.jpg

This depiction shows off the doors in better detail:

http://www.174ahc.org/images/ben51.jpg

I'm unable to find any pictures of the bay doors open. The bay appears to be outright deleted on later versions of the F-105.

Thanks. Though I have seen the external photos of the weapons bay, I'm really interested if anyone has any pictures showing it open or better yet inside.

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http://www.talkingproud.us/HistoryThudA.html

Ed Rasimus is a frequent poster on rec.aviation.military (or he used to be anyway, don't know if he still is)
 

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sferrin said:
The internal bay could carry either a MK28 nuke (AFAIK that's the only one the planned to use in that bay) or a fuel tank but mostly they just used it to carry the fuel tank. All F-105s had the bays.

I guess that would explain why it wasn't used to carry live ordinance much.
 

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sferrin said:
http://www.talkingproud.us/HistoryThudA.html

Ed Rasumus is a frequent poster on rec.aviation.military (or he used to be anyway, don't know if he still is)

Thank you!!!

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something that can switch on your imagination
 

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sferrin said:
Ed Rasumus is a frequent poster on rec.aviation.military (or he used to be anyway, don't know if he still is)

Ed is a great person, author of 'When Thunder Rolled'

...and one of the pilots who was deeply involved in F-23 development 'playing' various Northrop's flight simulator scenarios
 

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Looks like the F-105 could carry the following nukes:

MK 28IN Mod O/Mod 1, MK 43 Mod 0 bomb/Mod 0 nose, GAM-83B6 (F-105D only), TX-57

(I'd forgot about the MK43 & 57 until I saw that picture above. It appears to show a MK43)
 

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interesting that they have prefferred an actual drop tank instead of a fully fitting tank , the tank was to be dropped in any emergency I guess .
 

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flateric said:
something that can switch on your imagination

Hmm, I thought I recognized the F-105 in the last picture you posted (f-105d_60-0492_58_of_59.jpg): F-105D-10-RE s/n 60-0492 is at the Valiant Air Command museum in Titusville, Florida. I took a few pictures back in November - the weapons bay isn't open though.
 

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More than eleven years after the original question was asked --
This film shows the F-105's open bomb bay at 1:03.
 

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I never knew it had the split bomb bay capability (See around the 2:20 mark).
 

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How many minutes or miles did the internal fuel tank add to subsonic cruise?
 

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