Estimating characteristics from photos and drawings

latenlazy said:
Well if you are, I look forward to seeing them. It could do a lot to cut across the jingoism on all sides :D
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I very much doubt it. People will believe what they want to believe and ignore science and mathematics that show otherwise.
 
chuck4 said:
To say Su-19 (Su-24) could have been filled function similar to F-14 wasn't so far out there as the flippant might suggest. The Su-24 was perceived to be similar to F-111, and a derivatives of the F-111, the F-111B, was to have filled the stand off interception role later filled by F-14.

Also, Su-24's closest European equivalent, the Tornado, also spawned an interceptor derivative in the Tornado ADF. So what is so remarkably outlandish about Su-24 airframe being used to fill a similar role?

If there was one thing which many early estimates of Su-24 severely erred on, it was fuel capacity and range. Early suggestions that Su-24 had combat radius well over 1000 miles and could dominate the NorthSea and strike most of Britain from Warsaw pact bases was far off the mark.
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Sorry, I'm an obvious late comer to this thread.....
I too recall the early speculation of the Su-19 [Su-24] as a teen.
I support your notion Chuck4, on how the Su-19/Su-24 might have been percieved in a interceptor derivative, on the grounds of how the 'West' (prodomantly the Pentagon) coined the Su-19/Su-24 as a rip-off of the General Dynamics F-111, which was itself derived from an flamboyantly exaggerated Tactical Fighter Experimental (TFX) requirement. Which as you rightly state spawned the interceptor derivative - the F-111B....
Given the irrufutable propensity of the Soviet's doctrine of long-range interceptors for its unique geographical/environmental needs, one would think such a consideration of an interceptor derivative of the Su-19/Su-24, with its size (affording radar size, fuel load and weapons carriage, two-engine configurations, then variable-geometry wing advantages, and a potential for commonality, would have made some sense to have at leased studied/considered.....

Chuck4, as you also rightly denote, the speculation of the Su-19/Su-24's shortcomings in terms of performance weren't truely known, let alone appreciated in the West until many years later.

But then, as now, there's a persistent and non abating arrogance in the West that what we perceive as sensible/warranted in a military aircraft is not attainable - in essence a sense/measure of backwardness by the Soviet/Russians, in how they derive and operate their military aircraft......

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Pioneer

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NMaude said:
So basically a Soviet F-111B?
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Without all the carrier compatibility requirements and luggage...

Hence, the 'F-14 Tomcat' (when more correctly, it should have been F-111B) analogy in some publications/analysis, I would think.


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Pioneer
 

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