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Elon Musk’s Neuralink

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Elon Musk aspires to make inserting a computer connection into your brain as safe and painless as Lasik eye surgery.

On Tuesday evening, Neuralink, a company in which Mr. Musk has invested $100 million, detailed the baby steps it has taken toward that goal. Neuralink described a “sewing machine-like” robot that can implant ultrathin threads deep into the brain.

The company is hoping to begin working with human subjects as soon as the second quarter of next year.

The company claims the system will eventually be capable of reading and writing vast amounts of information. But as with many of Mr. Musk’s other ventures, like spaceships or futuristic tunnels, one of the biggest challenges may be for his scientists to match his grand vision.
 

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Great, wireheadding here we come...
 

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Wonder if it'd act like an antenna and do all kinds of weird crap. Drive under a power line and suddenly you're off on a DMT trip or something.
 

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Wonder if it'd act like an antenna and do all kinds of weird crap. Drive under a power line and suddenly you're off on a DMT trip or something.
Plenty of people out and about wired for Deep Brain Stimulation, mostly for seizure control. Plus people with cochlear implants for severe hearing impairments. And, while not brain related, pacemakers galore. There are more cyborgs out there than people realise. If there were problems we'd probably know by now.
 

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He's not practical. But, when you have all that money... I'd never get this.
 

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He should. Wall Street is after him to stop his science fiction projects.
 

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They do. If Wall Street won't support him he may have to go into real estate.
 

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Neuralink video explaining what it is and how it works. I would have to think that Neuralink must be working with the Allen Brain Institute on this. As far as I know, mapping the "connectome" has a long way to go.

Neuralink video

Allen Institute video
 

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They do. If Wall Street won't support him he may have to go into real estate.

If, if, if. Obviously they ARE supporting him. (Or do you seriously believe Tesla and SpaceX are going to go belly up?)
 

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Deep brain implant for seizure control does not mean the human becomes a cyborg. I thought this forum was for people open to technology and it's uses. Perhaps I'm wrong.
 

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Deep brain implant for seizure control does not mean the human becomes a cyborg. I thought this forum was for people open to technology and it's uses. Perhaps I'm wrong.
You should keep away from Twitter then as some of the responses to this news are rather scary.
 

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Wonder if it'd act like an antenna and do all kinds of weird crap. Drive under a power line and suddenly you're off on a DMT trip or something.
Tinfoil hat, obviously, might be the answer. ROTFL
 

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Deep brain implant for seizure control does not mean the human becomes a cyborg.
Well, technically, it does. So do cochelar implants, advanced prosthetic limbs, and a bunch of other useful technologies. (hat tip to DWG above). Doesn't mean we should shun them, or that we should take Musk's ambitions as a given. Brain interface is really difficult, especially because we don't have a good understanding of what all the parts of the brain do (and how) even in "normal" functioning. (Normal in quotes, because there's a lot of variability even in so-called neurotypical brains.)
 
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Deep brain implant for seizure control does not mean the human becomes a cyborg.
Well, technically, it does. So do cochelar implants, advanced prosthetic limbs, and a bunch of other useful technologies. (hat tip to DWG above).
Missed Foo Fighter's initial comment, but thanks for the credit and I agree absolutely. I've been calling myself an occasional cyborg for years - I used to use a TENS machine for pain control and while those are wired externally you do get implanted variants - spinal cord stimulators. Implanted technology is widely used in medicine and disability, and the boundaries get very fuzzy - is an osteo-integrated prosthetic limb internal or external? What about cameras feeding to electrodes attached to the optic nerve? And if they count, then shouldn't we count the purely external variants as well? Is a C-Leg prosthetic any different if it connects via an osteo-integrated mounting rather than a conventional socket?

Lots of us cyborgs out there.
 

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What degree of implant is required before the title is merited? Modern hybrid cars can mostly be driven electrically but cannot be called electric cars for example.
 

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This may be possible in the future but too little is known about the human brain and its natural wiring. In the area of prosthetics, the 'Luke Arm,' commissioned by DARPA and then developed (partly?) by the company DEKA (DEan KAmen), is now available here: https://www.mobiusbionics.com/luke-arm/

Further research with prosthetics, including those for hearing, will add to the knowledge base. I think Mr. Musk is being too optimistic, unless he has technology on hand he has not yet mentioned.
 

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I agree about the research and in the same way we need to research the use of T lymphocytes and grow spare organs etc from the tissue of the recipient which would remove the need for any of those pesky anti rejection chemicals flooding the body. I think that both types of research have demonstrated a lot of progress over the last ten years but more needs to be done
 
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