Chinese J-13 Projects

[TAKHISS]

J-13 develop by SAC（Shenyang Aircraft Corporation） in 70s，This blogger(Rainbow Bear) is the authors of old J-13's CG.
Ten years later, he interviewed several designers, re-produced J-13 of the CG, and write an article of the J-13 project.

part1
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5f6ff8c90100ltam.html

part2
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_5f6ff8c90100ltbw.html

 

[overscan (PaulMM)]

Nice article, thanks for posting.

 

[Deino]

Yes, really interesting !

... and J.P. & I wasn't that far off ! ;D
(I would even say we had the same idea regarding the unit)


Deino

 

[airman]

Beatiful : can be called just " chinese f-16"
Because i immagine that this aircraft could be have similar performance with american F-16

 

[taildragger]

With variable shock intakes, they would probably have had better high-speed performance than the F-16. A variable intake was left off the F-16 for cost/weight/complexity reasons, but GD designed the airplane so that one could be added or retrofitted in the future. I've never heard of the idea getting any traction though (other thah the F-35 intake fitted to a testbed and who knows if this was variable).

Taildragger

 

[Grey Havoc]

I suppose the lack of a suitable domestic engine is what killed this project?

 

[Deino]

YES ... simply the same reason as for the J-9, Q-6, J-10, J-11 ...

 

[hesham]

From Air Force 2001/10.

 

[famvburg]

From Air Force 2001/10.

Are they claiming the DF-113 (shown) to also be the later J-13?

 

[hesham]

Are they claiming the DF-113 (shown) to also be the later J-13?

I think not.

 

[famvburg]

Are they claiming the DF-113 (shown) to also be the later J-13?

I think not.

Did you read the caption?

 

[hesham]

Did you read the caption?

Yes,here it's.

 

[Obj476]

From Air Force 2001/10.

Are they claiming the DF-113 (shown) to also be the later J-13?

Absolutely not, df-113 is early stage concept design conducted in late 1950s. Shenyang J-13 is 1980s design which is almost in parallel to Chengdu J-10.

 

[Obj476]

I suppose the lack of a suitable domestic engine is what killed this project?

No, it failed the competition with J-10. Both J-10 and J-13 planned to use the copy of R-29. Although this reverse engineering was failed, as we know J-10 adopt imported Al-31 instead and domestic turbofans later.

 

[famvburg]

From Air Force 2001/10.

Are they claiming the DF-113 (shown) to also be the later J-13?

Absolutely not, df-113 is early stage concept design conducted in late 1950s. Shenyang J-13 is 1980s design which is almost in parallel to Chengdu J-10.

Did you by chance read the caption?

 

[Obj476]

From Air Force 2001/10.

Are they claiming the DF-113 (shown) to also be the later J-13?

Absolutely not, df-113 is early stage concept design conducted in late 1950s. Shenyang J-13 is 1980s design which is almost in parallel to Chengdu J-10.

Did you by chance read the caption?

The description is correct, but the pic is not J-13

 

[Skyfire]

The middle one.

 

[Skyfire]

The middle one.
View attachment 657091

more pictures

 

[Radium]

Second picture is apparently some chinese 70s propaganda.

Cheers,

Radium