'Chinese engine almost breaking the laws of Physics'

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Does anyone have any idea whether this is a fake? It's so hard to figure out what's AI or not these days.

A variety of comments have been made supposedly debunking the videos for their depiction of multi-hundred-gee missile turns, but we on this forum know that multi-hundred-gee anti-ballistic missile interceptors have been a viable technology going back to the 1960s, with SPRINT, HIBEX, and of course the big boy UPSTAGE.

UPSTAGE, tested when Nixon was President and Mao's China was still in the midst of its cultural revolution, was believed to have achieved lateral accelerations of up to 300 g, thanks to an external-burning rocket system thingamawhatsit (this post was thusly initially posted to the UPSTAGE thread, but it probably is better off on its own).

Now as noted above, it is difficult to determine whether or not the specific videos are fakes (it would seem a very expensive developmental test to expend multiple munitions, and the account is fishy), but the technology is certainly not definitively out of reach of the Chinese.

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Presciently, this comment was made by one forum user back in 2012:

The sad part is if this appeared today on a Chinese blog the Western defense establishment would have a stroke. Yet we did this decades ago (and likely have forgotten every aspect of repeating the feat. :'( )
 
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LMAO someone got offended super fast....

EDIT: I was badmouthing the blatant propagandist twitter account and it was deleted. Eric is right, this is fake af.
 
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One of them where the missile goes straight and then abruptly turns upwards at 90 degrees, that video can be found here. The xitter clipped out the launch from a ground based launcher. The turn happens only a second or three after launch so while it is 90 degrees its hardly the mach 2 turn the xitter claims it is.

There is one where the missiles goes straight and dives down after a while. Debatable if real mostly because the missile trails look very uniform and doesnt dissipate at all. Its also strange that anyone would be fire testing that many missiles at once so... considering that, theres definitely something weird about that clip.

The only remaining clip is one taken while driving. You can see the road light passing by. That one seems OK but theres zero reference as to what speed that craft flew at or turned at.

Just because the videos are iffy doesnt mean it cant happen I guess.
 
Hasn't the documentary guy retired yet???
 

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Its also strange that anyone would be fire testing that many missiles at once so...
It depends what type of test it is. If it's a development test, then yes, that would be unusual, but if it's a firing exercise for a coast defence battery, then multiple launches wouldn't be unreasonable. (And if it's a YJ-83, as claimed in the link you posted, then it's subsonic)
 
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Mach 10 was its top speed. Now if you want quick:

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382Gs.
Sferrin said:
The sad part is if this appeared today on a Chinese blog the Western defense establishment would have a stroke. Yet we did this decades ago (and likely have forgotten every aspect of repeating the feat. :'( )

Indeed, HIBEX-UPSTAGE was what came to mind when I came across the video, and you had a lovely comment from waaay back.

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A pity the consensus appears to be that the videos are faked, but the technology certainly is possible.
 
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Some tests solids spiral a bit to burn off propellant--so they hoped we'd think that was the tech used.
 
Follow the "Boeing HiBEX" link as well as this one:

Ooo, I'm sorry, I have a severe Boeing allergy. :) Working at a place for decades can do that to you, especially when you see the top execs openly looting the cash reserves to enrich themselves while sending utterly unqualified underlings to head up critical divisions and projects. No wonder I didn't recognize this as something of theirs! :)
 

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