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Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s

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Hi folks,

Here are some Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s. They are all variations of the same theme and come under the Model 306 designation:

First the Heavy Bomber:








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Now the first fighter version - the 306B single engine variant:





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And last, but not least, my favourite - the Commercial Flying Boat variant:




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*chuckle* If you look at the credits for that article, you *might* find a familiar name or two. ;)
 

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Sorry for bother you dude, but we just can see little parts of the atachments, and they´re look like a very good illustrations.
 

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Sorry, i already discovered that i need to save the image before could opened and now it´s complete.

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The Flying Boat is a beauty :p

Boeing has an impressive array of unconventional projects in the pre-1945 era. Perhaps the most active of US Aircraft Manufacturers?
What do you think about?

No - only some nobody named Evan L. Mayerle

Are you the author of this article?
 

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Our very own Evan (aka elmayerle) is the perspn credited in the original article (Airpower, March 2005) for explaining the principles of the external elevon. The authour and illustrator, I believe is Jared A. Zichek.

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http://www.sciencedaily.com/cgi-bin/apf4/amazon_products_feed.cgi?Operation=ItemSearch&SearchIndex=Books&Author=Jared+A.+Zichek

Apparently you can buy this article in html format online. $5.95 seems a bit much for a single article however.
 

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Flying Wing, Flying Boat? isn't that too unstable?
 

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Tzoli, thanks for resurrecting this old topic. I had never seen it before and I'm glad I did!!! Boeing sure had some amazing designs on the shelves at the time. Always have, in fact (the Model 390, 395 and 396 fighters come to mind, for instance). Real-life models unfortunately have always been a lot more conventional... ::)
 

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Stargazer2006 said:
Tzoli, thanks for resurrecting this old topic. I had never seen it before and I'm glad I did!!! Boeing sure had some amazing designs on the shelves at the time. Always have, in fact (the Model 390, 395 and 396 fighters come to mind, for instance). Real-life models unfortunately have always been a lot more conventional... ::)

You are welcome, it's nice to be a new reader here who seeks the older threads too. :)
While not always get the answers in short time tough.
 

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Eye-opening aircraft...

IMHO, most of them could have done with rudders on centre-line. Perhaps the 'leggy' fighter would have fared better with contra-props...

Uh, the flying boat seems to scream for an elegant rudder, perhaps a modest T- or V-tail to be sure, to be sure. Perhaps they intended to use sponsons (??), those low-mounted, stub wing things that some later designs had, which also allowed a convenient external 'step' plus stowage for grounding gear etc...
 

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Why is that the ailerons are on the wingtips separate of the wings and not in them as almost every other aircraft? This way it gives better manoeuvrability?
 

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My guess (not having read elmayerle's explanation in a long while) is that the elevons' configuration is dictated primarily by their elevator function and that they produce a longer moment arm than is possible otherwise. You could argue that these surfaces disqualify the airplanes from membership in the flying wing club, but it's a small, struggling club and they can't be too picky about who they let in. Pitch control was said to be one of the main deficiencies of Northrop's big flying wings, so it seems like a sensible idea.
 

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From what publication are all those Boeing flying wing drawings and illustrations taken, especially the bomber version? I'd like to get my hands on a copy.
 

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The author, Jared Zichek, is a member of this forum. I think it was an article in Wings/Airpower?
 

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It was. ISTR the article was from about 04 or 05, maybe. Have to go thru storage and dig it out.
 

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Well done, gentlemen! i appreciate the information. If readily accessible, can I get a hi-res scan of the Model 306 bomber 3-view? I want to redraw them for a possible 1/144th or 1/72 scratch-build project and can't read any of the dimensions on the drawing. I suppose I could interpolate from the cross-section of the fuselage which looks like it was taken from the B-15, but that would be a pretty big assumption. FYI I think it would be comparatively simple to make this thing with a 1/72nd scale Mossquito fuselage and 1/144th Airfix Model 314 wings as a starting point in 1/144th. But I need/want to redraw before I think much further. I wouldn't mind a scan of the text of the article, either.

My email is ag122651@hotmail.com

Thanks in advance!

AlanG
 

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in 1938-1940 were previded successors for Boeing 314 "Clipper"?
Were projects for future long rage passengers flying boats, for mid and late 40s?
 

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there was study Boeing Model 306

based on 314, but using tailless flying wing, then later change into a fuselage similar to the Boeing 314
and with Allison V-1710 Engines

the design let to XB-15 what became B-17 Bomber

 

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elmayerle said:
*chuckle* If you look at the credits for that article, you *might* find a familiar name or two. ;)
GTX said:
No - only some nobody named Evan L. Mayerle :D :D :D :D

Regards,

Greg
GTX said:
Our very own Evan (aka elmayerle) is the perspn credited in the original article (Airpower, March 2005) for explaining the principles of the external elevon. The authour and illustrator, I believe is Jared A. Zichek.

Regards,

Greg
Close to 20 years ago I'd corresponded by snail mail & over the Internet with Evan on number of aviation design concepts. This 1998 art of jet powered Yokosuka R2Y2s (escorted by Kyushu J7W1s) was result of design drawings he'd sent me to render the art that 16 years later is still up on j-aircraft.com:

 

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