• Hi Guest! Forum rules have been updated. All users please read here.

BAe H.S.125 AEW project

Maveric

Fight for yor Right!
Joined
Jan 14, 2007
Messages
1,961
Reaction score
324
Hi all,

found this very interesting 3view drawing of the BAe H.S.125 AEW project.
( Source: FliegerRevue 1988 )

Servus Maveric
 

Attachments

  • BAe HS-125 AEW Project.jpg
    BAe HS-125 AEW Project.jpg
    32.7 KB · Views: 656

Pirate Pete

ACCESS: Confidential
Joined
Jul 25, 2007
Messages
141
Reaction score
85
I see the article date is 1988.
I understood that the original HS125 AEW project was to be fitted with fore and aft radomes (as intended for the Blackburn P139 AEW and the later Nimrod AEW!!!), but have never seen any "drawings" of that version.

Pete
 

Stargazer2006

ACCESS: USAP
Senior Member
Joined
Jun 25, 2009
Messages
13,235
Reaction score
454
The project of an AEW version of the H.S. 125 was much earlier than 1988. It is mentioned and illustrated in the January 1983 issue of AIR INTERNATIONAL entitled "From Skyraider to Nimrod... Thirty Years of British AEW" by Mike Hirst, which clearly identifies it as a 1964 project.

In 1962 this British team looked at three AEW configurations — respectively with ventral, dorsal and forward-and-aft-scanner system (FASS) installations. In trade-off studies, the latter arrangement was assessed to show the best overall performance, although it was hardly the most elegant-looking solution. With these results in mind, the Blackburn design team of 1963 (by then a part of the Hawker Siddeley Group) proposed the P.139 project. With hindsight, this unlovely-looking aircrfaft can be viewed as a sensible proposition, but its bulbous proportions earned it disparaging nicknames, and its stability proved to be suspect in wind-tunnel tests. By 1964, the P.139 project had been shelved, and less-expensive designs, using existing airframes, were being considered.
One serious idea was the conversion of several examples of the HS.125 business jet, but its configuration meant that it had to use a fixed dorsal radome, like the out-dated Tracer, and it was unable to meet even the simplest endurance requirements. It too was shelved, having brought home one other very important technical truth, that the FASS radar had to be used, as proposed in the P.139. [...]
In February 1965 Britain cancelled all future aircraft carrier development, and this effectively killed all interest in shipborne AEW developments.
 

Attachments

  • HS.125 AEW (Air International, Nov 1983).gif
    HS.125 AEW (Air International, Nov 1983).gif
    211.1 KB · Views: 564

Grey Havoc

The path not taken.
Senior Member
Joined
Oct 9, 2009
Messages
11,773
Reaction score
1,910
Stargazer2006 said:
In February 1965 Britain cancelled all future aircraft carrier development, and this effectively killed all interest in shipborne AEW developments.

Until they began losing ships less than 30yrs later that is!
 

blackstar

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Sep 26, 2008
Messages
1,778
Reaction score
156
Here is a scan of some pages from the Hirst book.
 

Attachments

  • HirstAEWTableofContents.pdf
    702.9 KB · Views: 82

blackstar

ACCESS: Top Secret
Senior Member
Joined
Sep 26, 2008
Messages
1,778
Reaction score
156
Here is a scan of some pages from the Hirst book.
 

Attachments

  • HirstAEWChapter1.pdf
    930.5 KB · Views: 115

Similar threads

Top