Bölkow and MBB designations

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I will explain the Bolkow aircraft from 1948-1968 and MBB only from
1968-1991. the explaination is not regular.


MBB Phnix,L-252 Phoebus sailplanes.
RJP-1005 groung attack rotor jet project.
FK.6 light aircraft.
 

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Bo-46 two seat all metal research helicopter.
Bo-87 research helicopter developed from Bo-46.
Bo-102 Heli -Trainer: single seat light helicopter.
Bo-103 a flying version of Bo-102 with open cockpit.
Bo-104 proposed 2-seat light helicopter with two 120 h.p. NSU-Wankel rotary engines.
Bo-105 light helicopter with 4/5 seat.
Bo-106: Bo-105 with wider main cabin module and two additional (total 7) seats.
Bo-107 Medium transport helicopter led to MBB-Kawasaki BK-117.
Bo-108 developed from Bo-105 as 7-seat helicopter with redesigned streamlined nose.
BN-109 project 4-seat helicopter consider scaled-down Bo-105,developed with Nurtanio.
Bo-110 ----?.
Bo-111 ----?.
 

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Bo-112 ----?.
Bo-113 ----?.
Bo-114 ----?.
Bo-115 attack helicopter to compete Westland-VFW P-277.
Bo-116 ----?.
BK-117 MBB & Kawasaki co-operation to produce medium transport helicopter with
11-seat capacity.
Bo-118 ----?.
Bo-119 ----?.
Bo-120 developed in 1969 for the BMVg high speed helicopter program,
it based on the existing Bo-46.
Bo-130 ----?.
 

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A few additions:

Bo 70 – helicopter project (no details; only two references: FLUG REVUE May 1965 on page 18, and “Typenhandbuch der deutschen Luftfahrttechnik” by Lange on page 247)
Bo 125 – proposal for an European transport helicopter of the third generation (1981)
Bo 140 – tiltwing project in civil (Bo 140Z) and military (Bo 140M) configuration (see http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=271.0)
Bo 205 – two-/three-seat light aircraft project (1962), developed to the LFU (=Leichtflugtechnik-Union) LFU 205 V3
Bo(?) 207 – the same source (“Ludwig Bölkow und sein Werk – Ottobrunner Innovationen” by Gersdorff) uses consequently the designation Bölkow 207 (without Bo), four-seater was founded on the Klemm Kl 107 C, first flight on 10 Oct 1960
Bo 208 “Junior” – license production of the Swedish MFI 9
Bo 209 “Monsun” – serial production (100 aircraft were built, plus a single aircraft in 1973/74) of the amateur aircraft MHK 101 V2
Bo 210 – other designation for the projected MHK 102 V1

Btw, designation system of (the most) German aircraft manufacturers don’t use hyphens, so the correct spelling is Bo … (not Bo-...)
 

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Thanks boxkite,

B0-211 Taifun : light aircraft.
B0-212 ----?.
B0-213 ----?.
B0-214 developed from B0-207.
B0-310 Tip Jet transport project of 1963.
HFB-320 Hansa Jet :all metal,twin engine 10-seat business-jet aircraft.
HFB-330 Hansa Fan Jet: developed from Hansa Jet with turbofan engines.
 

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T-17 tilt-wing military transport aircraft.
BBH-1 (small wing) armed escort helicopter.
BBH-2 (large wing) same as above but with a fan-in-fin tail rotor,and pusher propeller
on the tail.
Hunter tip jet attack aircraft.
Horus ----?.
C-160 Transall : cargo tactical transport aircraft for NATO.
C-161 Transall : project developed from C-160.
MBB-223 Flamingo : after absorb SIAT produced that light aircraft.
T.1 Flamingo :a trainer version.
 

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Bo 70 - now I remember it was the project of a heavy crane helicopter with low-pressure tip-driven rotor. I believe a test-rig for the rotor was built.

?Bo? 310 - I would say Bölkow P 310 is the correct designation. Hesham, please note that Bölkow sometimes used the same number once again, but for different layouts. An example is the 209 - the Bo 209 is a total different aircraft than the P 209 project! So I only read about the P 310. I've never seen the type designation Bo 310. Be careful with the equation of Bo and P.

Further information (drawings, artwork, etc.) on

- T-17 tilt-wing military transport aircraft
- Hunter tip jet attack aircraft

is very welcome, Hesham.
 

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Dear boxkite,

the Bolkow B0-310, Hunter and T-17 mention in (www.aiaa.org) site.
 

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Hi;

Sager and Horus were a space aircraft
B0-214 was a B0-207 but with tricycle under carriage instead of tailwheel

I will complete:-

Me-200 and Me-400 was an attempt to built CASA C-101 trainer aircraft in germany
under licence
Me-2010,Me-2020,Me-2030,Me-2040 and Me-2050 were a rotor het transport projects
P 109 fighter/intercopter project
P 110 tailsitter high-altitude supersonic fighter/intercopter
P 209 ----?
Tip Jet 1,2 and 3 three defferent design to tip jet aircraft
F-90 advace fighter to EFA program
 

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if anyone know some P projects to Bolkow or MBB companies please tell us.
 

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Dear boxkite,

the Bolkow B0-310, Hunter and T-17 mention in (www.aiaa.org) site.
Yes, I know, hesham, because I'm one of the authors of this site ;). I hoped to get further information and pictures of better quality (the T-17 scan came from a Xerox copy :( ).
 

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Dear boxkite,

the Bolkow T-17 is mention in the site I told you before and I get it only from internet.
the site is www.aiaa.org
 

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Hesham, are you sure with the MBB (or Bölkow) Hunter? I assume a mistake of translation, because a 'Entwurf eines Hubschrauberjägers' (= 'design of a helicopter hunter') with two flapping rotors (is this the correct English term?) is shown in "Hubschrauber and Tragschrauber" by Gersdorff and Knobling. Unfortunately, the authors don't give a project number.
 

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Hi boxkite,

you will find it in www.aiaa.org/tc/vstol/unbuilt/index.htm
 

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Yes, I remember. Arne made the mistake to translate the caption to create a "Hunter". It's definitely wrong - I'll contact him for correction. Hope some day we'll get the real project number. Sorry for confusing. Please delete the 'designation' "Hunter" from your MBB/Bölkow list.
 

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Hi boxkite,

please tell us about MBB and Bolkow projects,such as P.209.
 

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From Aviation Week1965, a photo of a model of the Bo 70. Why was
here a tailrotor incorporated in a design with a tip driven rotor ?
 

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Jemiba said:
From Aviation Week1965, a photo of a model of the Bo 70. Why was
here a tailrotor incorporated in a design with a tip driven rotor ?
How else would you yaw the fuselage??? If you're pointed north, but you want to be pointed east or west, how else do you accomplish it?
 
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