The B-36 fuselage came with a bunch of other parts I got hold of so I could build my XC-99. It was a surprise part of the package as I practically got the whole model, when I did the deal I thought I was just getting the wings, u/c etc.
Is it? It doesn't say it is an Avro design on the cover, and there is no reference to Avro in the contents list. Also it is shown with a US registration.hesham said:Hi,
on Air Trails magazine,I found this drawing for a jet transport version of Avro Vulcan,
very close to Atlantic.
No, not really. Its a delta with four engines but that doesn't make it very close and certainly doesn't justify calling it a civil Avro Vulcan, which is misleading at best.hesham said:Yes my dear Pometablava,very close,isn't it ?.
Some of Chadwick's early Avro 698 designs looked a bit like that arrangement, cover sheet to BSP-Jet Bombers since 1949 shows something similar.Hood said:It's a hypothetical artist's impression of a delta-wing airliner, probably inspired by, but in no way based on the Atlantic.
Note the wings are mounted to the top/centre of the fuselage unlike the Atlantic, also the wingtip tail surfaces and the odd wingtip engines and the curved nose unlike that of the Atlantic design.
Of course my dear Lark,lark said:Thanks !
As the description of the cover art says, de delta is
indeed a pure fantasy design..
(Airman with a vision series of would be designers)
Much the same story as with the Vickers V1000/VC7 I would assume; attempting to satisfy military and civil transport requirements with a single design and with neither customer showing any real enthusiasm. Handley-Page's derivatives from the Victor suffered the same fate.CNH said:So will someone tell us why it never happened? Was the design realistic?
Now that's an interesting comment Chris, I had figured something along those lines while developing my backstory for my model Atlantic I'm building. My story is Avro Canada built them for the RAF and the RCAF bought in on it afterwards ---- My Atlantic will be an RCAF one and was purchased instead of the Boeing 707CJGibson said:Could be that Avro were too busy building Vulcans and didn't want to be sidetracked or the MoS didn't want them sidetracked. I seem to recall some bother at Vickers when MoS paid for an extra hangar for Blue Boar development but Vickers put V.1000(?) work into it. I mention it in Vulcan's Hammer or BSP4.
Thanks for that, it was indeed what I was thinking, maximum commonality between versions. What did cross my mind, however, was that if a separate production line was set up for the Atlantic version, when the bomber wing was updated, the airliner version might not be, if no problems were apparent with it . . .When I had contacted Mike Meehan (who was on the team that produced the brochure [he drew some of the pictures]), he told me that the Atlantic would have got whatever the Vulcan ended up with for the wings, the idea being to utilize as much between the two aircraft as possible. Keep in mind the Atlantic was on the drawing boards before the first Vulcan prototype had even flown which is why the brochures always have the 'triangular' wing plan form. Unfortunately, Mike has since died so my source of information has ended.