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Avions Marcel Dassault (MD) designations

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Archibald said:
It would essentially looks like a Mirage 5 or Mirage 50. It wouldn't be too hard to create a (fake) 3-view, a kind of frankenstein Mirage F1 / V / 2000 composite.
The problem is

-10% more wing area (34,85 m² for the Mirage III => around 38,34 m² for MD 600)
-Wing with LERX (like the Mirage III V) for 5% more lift at high incidence

We don't know were are these 10% more wing area :

-same length but wider span of the wings ?
-root of the leading edge more forward ?
-root of the trailing edge further back ?
-the LERX is bigger (or not) than on III NG and/or IIIV ?
-mix of two or more of these possibilities ?
 

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Maybe it would have LERX akin to the Mirage III-NG ?

I often wonder why did the Mirage III airframe stuck with the Atar 9K50 until the very end, in 1988.
The last Mirage III developments are
- Mirage 50 (1979)
- Mirage III-NG (1982)
- Mirage IIIEX (1988)
- Mirage 50M (1988)

One might think the III-NG might have had a M53, considering it had canards and fly by wire.
 

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From Le Fana 447,

here is an Info about Dassault T30 Project and MD-301,MD-302 & MD-303.
 

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From Icare 188,

the Ouragan variants.
 

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Deltafan said:
At the beginning of the Cuny book Les chasseurs Dassault Ouragans, Mystères et Super-Mystères there is some extras for the 500, 600 and 650, and 800 :

-MD 500 : four Nene engines, 40 tons, 60 passengers for 2000 km, wings and fins looked likes those of the Ouragan (1948-49)
My dear Deltafan,

in Ailes 7/1948,they mentioned that,the MD-500 was a twin engined tourist aircraft Project,who
we can believe it ?.
 

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hesham said:
Deltafan said:
At the beginning of the Cuny book Les chasseurs Dassault Ouragans, Mystères et Super-Mystères there is some extras for the 500, 600 and 650, and 800 :

-MD 500 : four Nene engines, 40 tons, 60 passengers for 2000 km, wings and fins looked likes those of the Ouragan (1948-49)
My dear Deltafan,

in Ailes 7/1948,they mentioned that,the MD-500 was a twin engined tourist aircraft Project,who
we can believe it ?.
This issue of Les Ailes 7/1948 shows that this MD-500 project was : Grand Tourisme - 2 x 200 hp - already cancelled.

Probably, as this first project was cancelled, the designation MD-500 was reused for the project that we knew before (MD 500 : four Nene engines, 40 tons, 60 passengers for 2000 km, wings and fins looked likes those of the Ouragan (1948-49)).
 

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OK my dear Deltafan,

you meant the MD-500 re-allocated.
 

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From Aviation Magazine 1953,

here is a strange Info about MD-600 fighter and MD-900 three jets bomber Projects;

According to source information American, six different prototypes are in the final stages.
at the Marcel-Dassault factories. One military apparatus would be of the lineage previous
and would carry the designation of Mystery-VI. We count, among these prototypes, the
interceptor has Delta MD-550 wing and a three-engine, the MD-900, which would be an
airplane of bombing raid. This confirms the information published in May 1953 by the
German magazine Der Flieger, which specified that the delta MD-550 was to reach 1,800
km.-h. and that another fighter had to be produced under the designation of MD-600.
 

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From Aviation Magazine 1953,

there was a variants to MD-900 Jet Bomber Project,had a more powerful engines ?.
 

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from Georges Messier site,

there was also MB-31 ?.
 

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