Astronomy and Planetary Science Thread

An update on DART. Short version: it was even more effective than hoped. There are some interesting orbital dynamics, apparently as a result of all the boulders and dust blasted off Didymos' surface and then falling back again.

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This Exoplanet is Probably a Solid Ball of Metal

Gliese 367 b (or Tahay) is certainly an oddball. It’s an Ultrashort Period (USP) planet that orbits its star in only 7.7 hours. There are almost 200 other USP planets in our 5000+ catalogue of exoplanets, so Gliese 367 b isn’t unique in that regard. But it’s an outlier in another way: it’s also an ultra-dense planet—almost twice as dense as Earth.

 
That will be one hell of a strange planet Flyaway, to be made of solid metal. I wonder how many more planets like this one will be found?
 
Any ideas as to the type of metal the planet is made of Flyaway? Or is it too early to tell at this stage.
 
Any ideas as to the type of metal the planet is made of Flyaway? Or is it too early to tell at this stage.

It's in the article...

But it’s an outlier in another way: it’s also an ultra-dense planet—almost twice as dense as Earth.

That means it has to be almost pure iron.
 
If only we could swap it for Venus.

In the news





 
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There is nothing wrong with Venus publiusr. Venus is interesting in it's own unique way, such as having a runaway greenhouse effect and having active volcanoes.
 
It’s probably a bit like Psyche in our solar system a planetary core.
 
'Planetary science' as in our planet.



A couple of decades ago a series, The Future is Wild, presented such a scenario.

 
Interesting. Of course, it all depends on how the present continents arrange themselves into the next supercontinent. I've seen several configurations postulated, including one centered over the North pole . . .



cheers,
Robin.
 
Precessing jet nozzle connecting to a spinning black hole in M87

Abstract
The nearby radio galaxy M87 offers a unique opportunity to explore the connections between the central supermassive black hole and relativistic jets. Previous studies of the inner region of M87 revealed a wide opening angle for the jet originating near the black hole1,2,3,4. The Event Horizon Telescope resolved the central radio source and found an asymmetric ring structure consistent with expectations from general relativity5. With a baseline of 17 years of observations, there was a shift in the jet’s transverse position, possibly arising from an 8- to 10-year quasi-periodicity3. However, the origin of this sideways shift remains unclear. Here we report an analysis of radio observations over 22 years that suggests a period of about 11 years for the variation in the position angle of the jet. We infer that we are seeing a spinning black hole that induces the Lense–Thirring precession of a misaligned accretion disk. Similar jet precession may commonly occur in other active galactic nuclei but has been challenging to detect owing to the small magnitude and long period of the variation.

 
Astronomers have used the observations by the Gaia satellite from the European Space Agency (ESA) to work out exactly how much mass the Milky Way has. And it turns out it is less than previous estimates, placing the total at 206 billion times the mass of our Sun.


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Yes they have jumped the gun on this as the preprint is out tomorrow so I’ve deleted the post.
 
Strange that the Milky Way is missing Dark Matter and weighs less than previously thought? What is going on with our home Galaxy all the stuff that I had known when I was younger is now being overrulled. :eek:
 
There could be a second Kuiper Belt just beyond the first one with a mysterious 10 AU gap between the two.

While using ground-based telescopes to hunt for fresh targets for NASA’s New Horizons spacecraft, now past Pluto on a course out of the Solar System, Fraser and his colleagues have made a tantalizing, though preliminary, discovery: about a dozen objects that lie beyond 60 AU—nearly as far from Pluto as Pluto is from the Sun. The finding, if real, could suggest that the Kuiper belt either extends much farther than once thought or—given the seeming 10-AU gap between these bodies and the known Kuiper belt—that a “second” belt exists.

 
Interesting! This pricked up my ears, eyes, whatever:

Just as intriguing as the new objects is the apparent gap between 50 and 60 AU, says Mihály Horányi, a space physicist at the University of Colorado Boulder who oversees New Horizons’s dust counter. “One way or another, something is responsible for maintaining that gap.” In other solar systems, planets orbiting within a dusty disk carve gaps by hoovering up material. But no large planet has been seen in the gap. The gap could also be a relic from the Solar System’s infancy, caused by waves of pressure in the disk.
 
Strange that the Milky Way is missing Dark Matter and weighs less than previously thought? What is going on?
Tapewormholes...the latest fad to fit into those lightcone corsets...now they have downsized the universe as well it seems.

I think MOND is helping them look for Planet 9 or whatever...a tweak like Mercury needed.

Now I wonder about Gliese 710.

Could that be a smaller, brighter object that is closer in?
 
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No planet nine just MOND.

A pair of theoretical physicists are reporting that the same observations inspiring the hunt for a ninth planet might instead be evidence within the solar system of a modified law of gravity originally developed to understand the rotation of galaxies.

 
An international team of scientists have discovered a huge spike in radiocarbon levels 14,300 years ago by analyzing ancient tree-rings. The radiocarbon spike was caused by a massive solar storm, the biggest ever identified.



Nine such extreme solar storms—known as Miyake Events—have now been identified as having occurred over the last 15,000 years studying tree-rings and ice layers records. The most recent confirmed Miyake Events occurred 1,030 and 1,250 years ago. This newly-identified 14,300-year-old storm is, however, the largest that has ever been found—roughly twice the size of these two.


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So what are the chances of another solar flare of that magnitude hittting the Earth again in our life times Flyaway?
 
A failed Carrington event as it was called set off a lot of mines off the shores of Vietnam. The Niven story INCONSTANT MOON worries me a tad.

In other news, today phys.org had the story "SuperHeavy Elements/Ultradense asteroids" with z=118 and above perhaps in " CUDOS" like 33 Polyhymnia.

Maybe that could spark Space development...
 
Some asteroids have measured densities higher than those of any elements known to exist on Earth. This suggests that they are at least partly composed of unknown types of ‘ultradense’ matter that cannot be studied by conventional physics. Jan Rafelski and his team at the Department of Physics, The University of Arizona, Tucson, USA, suggest that this could consist of superheavy elements with atomic number (Z) higher than the limit of the current Periodic Table. They modelled the properties of such elements using the Thomas-Fermi model of atomic structure, concentrating particularly on a proposed ‘island of nuclear stability’ at and around Z=164 and extending their method further to include more exotic types of ultra-dense material. This work has now been published in EPJ Plus.

 
The afterglow of a massive collision between two giant planets may have been detected for the first time. The wreckage of the collision could eventually cool and form an entirely new planet. If the observation is confirmed, it provides an amazing opportunity to watch the birth of a new world in real time and open a window into how planets form.

 
On space—a new view
 
Record concentrations of a helium isotope found inside 62-million-year-old Arctic rocks could be the most compelling evidence to date of a slow leak in our planet's core.

Building on the results of a previous analysis of ancient lava flows, a team of geochemists from Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution and the California Institute of Technology are now more certain than ever that helium trapped in the core as our planet was forming is making its way to the surface.



Basaltic lavas on Canada's Baffin Island contain some of the world's highest ratios of helium 3 (3He) to the slightly heavier isotope, helium 4 (4He). To geologists, such a mix indicates the gas's presence isn't contamination by the atmosphere, but rather a sign of deeper, more ancient origins.

Several years ago, Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution geochemist Forrest Horton uncovered helium isotope ratios of up to 50 times that of atmospheric levels in samples of olivine collected from Baffin's lava fields, making them high even for the mantle.


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The Moon is 40 million years older than previously thought new analysis of crystals brought back by Apollo 17 has shown.


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So we got the date wrong when the Moon was formed, I wonder does the planetesimal crash still stand as the best method of formation?
 
An international team of researchers led by Dutch Ph.D. candidate Mark Snelders (ASTRON and University of Amsterdam) has discovered radio pulses from the distant universe that last only millionths of a second. They found these microsecond bursts after a meticulous examination of archival data from a known millisecond source. It's unclear how the ultrafast bursts are created.


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Asteroid 33 Polyhymnia is very strange object

in 2012 they could estimated it mass of (6.20±0.74)×10+18 kg, (do interaction with other Asteroids)
and here start the problem
Polyhymnia diameter is 54.39±11.84 km
this mass and diameter implies an extremely high density of 75.28±9.71 g/cm3 !
or ten time higher as lead

now there several proposal to mystery:

1. there is error in mass calculation ?, repeated in 2020 with same mass estimation...
2. Polyhymnia is not a Asteroid, but what then ? here goes speculation wild: Alien Spaceship or Probe
3. is their mini black hole in center of Polyhymnia ?
4. Transuranium element ? studies show theoretical, there are stable elements beyond Uran (the island of stability) with density of 60-80 g/cm3

The only way to find out what wrong with Polyhymnia, is send a spaceprobe

Sources:
Carry, B. (December 2012), "Density of asteroids", Planetary and Space Science, vol. 73, pp. 98–118,

Kretlow, Mike. "Size, Mass and Density of Asteroids (SiMDA) – Summary for: (33) Polyhymnia".
Size, Mass and Density of Asteroids (SiMDA). 12 October 2023.
 
The first super-Earth astronomers ever discovered has given off strange signals for nearly two decades, and scientists may have finally figured out why.



In the new study, the authors hypothesize that the planet's proximity to its star is causing it to outgas, meaning that giant volcanoes and thermal vents open up, spewing hot carbon-rich elements into the atmosphere. But the planet can't hold on to that atmosphere for long due to the extreme heat, and this gas eventually gets blown away, leaving the planet bare until the outgassing begins again.

Unlike most planets, the atmosphere of 55 Cancri e is unstable. The outgassing process tries to bulk up the atmosphere, while the extreme radiation and solar wind from the star blow it away. But these two processes are not in balance, leading to the situation where sometimes the planet has an atmosphere, and other times it doesn't.

The researchers believe this imbalance in the planetary atmosphere can explain the strange transit signals. When the planet is in its atmosphere-less "bald" phase, no visible light comes from the planet's atmosphere, because there isn't one, but the planet's hot surface still emits infrared light. When the atmosphere puffs up, both the visible light and all the radiation coming from the surface show up in the transit signal.

 
Good find Flyaway, it is very strange that 55 Cancri e is losing and re-growing it's atmosphere. A weird set of surcumstances if I say so myself.
 

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