AGA Aviation XCG-9

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Greetings All -

Another find at the National Soaring Museum was this wind tunnel model of the AGA Aviation XCG-9.

Enjoy the Day! Mark
 

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Oh WOW!!!!!!!! :eek:

I'd been dreaming of seeing this design for EVER! Thank you so much.

A.G.A. took over where Pitcairn left off, failed to get the USAAF interested in the XO-61 autogyro (a very innovative design) and as G & A (then Firestone) they also submitted (unsuccessfully) their GA-45 helicopter to the USAAF as the YR-14. What a shame because they had a very interesting approach to designing aircraft and were no longer heard of after that.

The Pitcairn XO-61 can be seen here:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=6150.msg50630
 

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Very interesting aircraft! Thank you very much!
 

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The XCG-9 was a 30 troop glider. Two examples (known as model G.5) were ordered on 3 July 1942 with serials 42-56697/56698 but these were not built. The contract was cancelled on 2 December 1942, by which time Autogyros, Gliders and Airplanes (AGA) had restructured as Gliders and Airplanes (G & A).
Specifications:
span: 108'6", 33.07 m
length: 63'11", 19.48 m
max. speed: 150 mph, 241 km/h
 

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Has someone a picture of the related waterborne glider (twin-hull, same company)? This would be even better... But this scale model is already wonderful, thanks... ;D
 

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"Has someone a picture of the related waterborne glider "

Sorry, not about this aircraft itself, only about a flying manned model in 1 to
2.5 scale. And the photo actually isn't good at all .. :-\

The other picture is an artist impression XCG-9, both pictures are from
J.E.Mrazek "Kampfsegler im 2. Weltkrieg" (Assault Gliders of WW II)
 

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Re: AGA Aviation XCG-9/XLRG-1

The XLRG-1 was a twin hulled amphibious glider with accommodation for a pilot and 12 troops in each hull. Development was ordered on 23 December 1941 and a 40% model flew with a civil registration (according to my info). Production was considered as LR2N but the programme was cancelled in 1943
 

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In reviewing some scans from a 2016 NARA II visit, I found these artist concepts from Record Group 342 FH that might be of interest here. They actually had drawing information blocks showing the company. Other images in this file grouping did not. I think these are in the right topic., if not I am sure someone will correct me.

Interesting concept bringing two P-39s to the fight with you, just wondering the effects of dragging the glider had on the B-17!
 

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Interesting concept bringing two P-39s to the fight with you, just wondering the effects of dragging the glider had on the B-17
And it would be interesting to see the whole thing on take-off, too.

Sort of an inverted Mistel.
We winder how much more the glider weighed, compared with the maximum bomb load the a P-39 could carry?????
Bell P-39 had an empty weight of 6,515 pounds and a maximum take-off weight of 8,400 pounds, for a useful load less than 1,884. A pair of P-39s had a useful load of less than 3,768 pounds, only enough to lift a small glider ... perhaps only a British Hotspur. Those are landing gear limitations.

P-39 empty weight could be reduced by stripping out wing guns and some of the armour, but the 37 mm cannon and some of the nose armour would need to stay to maintain balance.

The second factor is the excess horsepower generated by the Allison V-1710-86 engines.
If we compare XCG-9 with the British Horsa glider (30 seater), we get a gross weight of 15,750 pounds. Add that to the empty weights of a pair of P-39s and you get an MTOW of 28,782, which leads to a power/mass of 0.083, similar to C-46 at 0.088 and C-47 at 0.095. So there was enough horsepower to fly this mysterious mistel.

Dear Moderators, please link this thread with the bigger thread about American cargo gliders.
 
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