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AFSC Secret Project 1168, Code Named Pye Wacket

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excellent find!, i've been intrigued this since i read about it in Jenkins' XB-70 book,

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Stargazer2006 said:
Documents listed in first post are no longer accessible.

I have found something interesting in the NACA archives and I wondered if this had anything to do with Pya Wacket at all.

Model 1665? No, that's a model of a manned re-entry vehicle. An early Apollo-type concept.
 

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Pye Wacket pdfs from the first posting are back up at DTIC:
PYE WACKET Feasibility Test Vehicle Study (Summary) Volume 1
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0325216

PYE WACKET. Feasibility Teast Vehicle Study (Configuration and Autopilot/Control)
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0325217

Along with:
PYE WACKET Feasibility Test Vehicle Study (Aerodynamics) Volume 2
http://www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?Location=U2&doc=GetTRDoc.pdf&AD=AD0325237

And according to the search engine all are also "available" through google and amazon "books" as well ;)

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http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/317697.pdf
 

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The Pye Wacket is a fascinating missile development that I've had great interest in for awhile, mostly due to it's outstanding agility: Supposedly able to do 250g+ at Mach 3 at the very least in a proof of concept development.

The weirdest thing was a mention about reducing the agility of the weapon to some extent during development: I cannot fathom why one would do this
 
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Yes, it was a fascinating missile project. There is a good and detailed development story in the "Valkyrie" book by Jenkins & Lanids.
 

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http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,3814.msg188566.html#msg188566
 

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Not sure if this is related. Found on flickr

"Yes, the Navy DID spend a few hundred thousand dollars studying the feasibility of a disc-shaped missile system back in the 1970s.

This view of the model shows the rear of the unit - the main engine exhaust is on the edge of the disc. Also visible are the vectoring ports for maneuvering the missile, as well as the standard delivery system lugs on the top.

An artist's rendering (probably by Larry Zabel) showed the proposed system to be about three to three & one-half feet in diameter. I believe it was intended to match the terminal and lethal performance of the Sidewinder missile, but with a lot more maneuverability"


"Front view showing the guidance system window. I believe it was intended to use off-the-shelf components from the Sidewinder missile."
 

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Concerning the lethality side - how was the warhead to be arranged in Pye Wacket, and was the weapon expected to get very reduced miss distances or hit-to-kill? I ask this because I have read (I am not sure where) that large wings in way of a warhead could interfere with the fragmentation patter produced and, well... Pye Wacket *is* a wing.


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Oh my God,fantastic,many thanks Astronautix,


and you are welcome.
 

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YES, YES, YES
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Encyclopedia Astronautica is back from the dead.

Astronautix, welcome to this Forum
 

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Hello, I see you also posted on Nasaspaceflight.com. Are you Mark Wade himself ? your website remain a valuable resource use by many, so we are glad you come talking with us on space forums.
 

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Great stuff, and great to have such a luminary on this board!
 

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Glad you're back! Now we just need Mark Lindroos to resurrect.
 

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GREAT!! Not only is the Astronautix site alive and well, but it's back with an in-depth article that will no doubt serve as an absolute reference on a previously little-known topic... Thanks a lot and welcome aboard, astronautix!!
 

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XP67_Moonbat said:
Glad you're back! Now we just need Mark Lindroos to resurrect.

Is he the guy that had the site with the black background and drawings or pictures of a zillion different launch vehicles?
 

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sferrin said:
XP67_Moonbat said:
Glad you're back! Now we just need Mark Lindroos to resurrect.

Is he the guy that had the site with the black background and drawings or pictures of a zillion different launch vehicles?


That is he.
 

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Yes, this is Mark Wade. Thanks to all for the kind words.
I hope to be cleaning up the site and adding new content, but it will take time after several years of neglect...
 

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This one is new to me. Does anyone have any info/photos on Pye Wacket? -SP

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