Aérospatiale / MBDA EUROSAM Aster missile family

[Ainen]

Yep, this is beyond ridiculous. Oh well, another one added to my ignore list.

Given that Buk was the system that won Ukraine air superiority, butthurt isn't exactly reasonable.
Few systems ever achieved such strategic effect(S-75 Vietnam level), and most certainly SAMPT is not one of them.

 

[DWG]

I dont buy that number of delivered Aster 30s. We know that the there was a shortage of Aster30s pretty much from the beginning and we have seen the killmarks on the comand post of the first SAMP/T system in Ukrainian service. With 34 recorde kills the picture would have to miss 2/3 of the killmarks or the SAMP/T has and abyssmal combat record or the Ukrainians did not record all of their kills or the System did not fire and hit that many missles

Or the Aster 30s were being reserved for more difficult IRBM targets. You can't compare the results without comparing the target lists.

 

[Big_Zukini]

Given that Buk was the system that won Ukraine air superiority, butthurt isn't exactly reasonable.
Few systems ever achieved such strategic effect(S-75 Vietnam level), and most certainly SAMPT is not one of them.

Ukraine does not have air superiority, and both modern and old air defenses are layered. Now more than before.

 

[Titus K]

Ukraine does not have air superiority, and both modern and old air defenses are layered. Now more than before.

Let's not make this a Ukraine war thread.