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  1. overscan (PaulMM)

    Various McDonnell-Douglas Advanced Design Proposals

    Thanks to the ever-vigilant Mark Nankivil, we have a number of McDonnell-Douglas Advanced Design sketches to identify. I think I can figure out a few, but I thought it might be fun to let everyone have a go at this game. I'll post one design per post, so we can move them to the correct topics...
  2. A

    Harrier in place of Super Etendard: 1973

    This is a rough TL sketch. POD is October 20, 1971. http://www.ffaa.net/projects/jaguar/jaguar_fr.htm That day, off Marseille, the Foch is flight testing Jaguar M05, that is: the navalized fifth prototype. As the aircraft is returned to the hangar for maintenance, one mechanic raise alarm...
  3. Triton

    Convair Model 49 Advanced Aerial Fire Support System

    Convair submitted the Model 49 as its proposal for the Advanced Aerial Fire Support System (AAFSS) competition. From Modeling Madness: Sources: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread72972/pg1 http://modelingmadness.com/scotts/viet/us/army/model49.htm
  4. J

    Chinese VTOL aircraft

    Is anyone aware of any projects by China to create a VTOL aircraft to operate off of their helicopter carriers?
  5. uk 75

    No Harrier alt history

    The Harrier has become such a crucial part of the Royal Navy and Royal Navy history that I dont think we have yet risked a thread about a world in which it never entered service. Like all early VSTOL designs the P1127 was not easy to fly..It only existed at all because of US funding and...
  6. A

    The Convair Model 200 / 201 /218 TL

    We have a whole bunch of threads, alt-history or not. But no full blown TL so far. The POD: May 1972, common sense prevails: Convair Model 200 carries the day over Rockwell NAR-356. It becomes the XFV-12 interceptor for Zumwalt Sea Control Ship. Even after that one is canned, two prototypes are...
  7. taildragger

    Unknown aircraft concept

    Here's a sketch of an unknown aircraft recently found on eBay. Any ideas on what I bought? My guess is that it's a proposed VTOL or extreme STOL aircraft intended for COIN applications. The signature is dated 1974 (I think) which would be right for the SEA-type camouflage. If the A3... number...
  8. E

    Vertical Aerospace VX4

    https://vertical-aerospace.com/vx4/
  9. S

    DARPA/SOCOM X-76 Speed and Runway Independent Technologies (SPRINT)

    case. Safety and redundancy of multi-engine systems is a complex and evolving field. What is unacceptably unreliable using one technology, demanding full redundancy, may be a lot better using a different technology. For example combustion engines used to be so unreliable and lacking in...
  10. helmutkohl

    What if Germany went through with VTOL aircraft?

    Germany was experimenting with various VTOL aircraft during the cold war in the end they didn't go for any of them. in this alternate scenario.. what if Germany did order some into production? 1. Which design would be the most likely to lead to operation? they had the VAK 191, DO 31 (this...
  11. RavenOne

    Bell High Speed VTOL (HSVTOL)

    Son of CV-22B Osprey: Air Force Research Lab signs Research contract with Bel for high speed VTOL study https://www.flightglobal.com/helicopters/us-air-force-signs-research-contract-for-bells-high-speed-vtol/143611.article
  12. Flyaway

    Daedalus Flight Pack

    The Royal Marines appear to have become early adopters of the Daedalus flight pack. View: https://mobile.twitter.com/AdmTonyRadakin/status/1388551547076894723
  13. helmutkohl

    What if UK postponed the decomissioning of the Ark Royal class, would it change the outcome of the Falklands?

    the Falklands war occurred in 82 Ark Royal (or another ship of the same class?) was decommissioned in 79 What if they had opted to delay the decommissioning by a few years but then the Falkland war occurred anyways Would the Ark Royal have been sent? would it have contributed differently than...
  14. shin_getter

    Massed (e)VTOL world: what would it be like?

    If you think about it, our physical environment is heavily influenced by cars. Roads defines architecture defines social life defines culture and intellectual life. Just look at those terms: suburbanite, inner city, rural, etc With the development of low cost safe VTOL the entire logic of...
  15. uk 75

    Getting a VSTOL airgroup into service

    A variety of threads cover the attempts by the USN to develop an airgroup suitable for its Sea Control Ships (SCS). The ships themselves have been well covered and individual VSTOL programmes have their own individual threads. What I want to do is compare what actually happened with what might...
  16. hesham

    British VTO Jet Transport Aircraft Concept of 1955 ?

    From a report about Safety Aircraft,at Cornell University; here is a weird concept for British VTO Jet Transport Airplane of 1955,I can't ID it,can anyone help ?. - If it was just a hypothetical design,we can transfer it to anther section.
  17. Michel Van

    German VTOL Business Jet

    I need your Advice I working on Story were German history goes little different Here goes Aerospace industry in VTOL with Do-31 and EWR VJ 101 get into service. One of civilian application is a VTOL Business Jet I took the MBB HFB 320 Jet as template With Mass 9600 kg it need around...
  18. Grey Havoc

    Future Flight Challenge (UKRI program)

    https://www.ukri.org/our-work/our-main-funds/industrial-strategy-challenge-fund/future-of-mobility/future-flight-challenge/ https://www.aero-mag.com/gkn-aerospace-to-accelerate-sustainable-technologies-in-future-flight-challenge/
  19. P

    Late 1960's USN Fletcher-class 'Harrier Carrier' concept

    Here's a really interesting account I found on Project Terminated, by Ronnie Serrano: '... a couple drawings were done by Pierre Mion for the U.S Navy in the late-1960s which shows using converted Fletcher-class destroyers into makeshift "Harrier Carriers". The plan at the time is to convert...
  20. T

    The Jetpack thread

    Operational test of Jetpacks has resurfaced fuelled by Startups with no real market and a full trail of blazing innovation. I think it's time we have a thread to discuss gently and keep each other updated on the subject. Here is an illustration of a discutable experiment: View...
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