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  1. uk 75

    Sea Vixens and Scimitars stay in service into the 1970s

    For a variety of reasons the Scimitar and Sea Vixen seem to be the only UK aircraft in the 1960s which can operate from HMS Centaur and provide a decent sized airgroup for Ark Royal, Eagle, Victorious and Hermes. They arrived in service much later than their US counterparts and the RN were eager...
  2. uk 75

    Britain abandons nuclear weapons

    The UK nuclear deterrent has become after the NHS a political commitment for both Tory and Labour PMs to show their metal. But an earlier Tory PM, Harold Macmillan had his doubts as did Sir Winston Churchill. Macmillan got on well with the new young US President. Kennedy for his part saw the UK...
  3. uk 75

    Tank development if the Cold War had continued

    If the Soviet Union had been run more pragmatically in the 70s like China was after Deng's modernisations and the Cold War had continued after 1989 one area of great interest would have been tanks. If the Soviet Union had been an active player in 1990 Saddam Hussein would not have invaded Kuwait...
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    Proposed outgrowth variants of Spähpanzer Luchs 8x8 reconnaissance vehicle?

    I've been trying in vain to assertain if there was proposed outgrowth variants of the by Daimler-Benz Spähpanzer Luchs 8x8 armoured reconnaissance vehicle? I'm particularly interested as to the adoptability of the Spähpanzer Luchs turret ring size and if larger and heavier armaments were...
  5. Foo Fighter

    TSR2 SLEP

    G'day folks, consider this. The TSR2 goes into service and later requires a SLEP, what engines are avaulable and could a big wing be fitted/would it be an improvement?
  6. helmutkohl

    What if Germany went through with VTOL aircraft?

    Germany was experimenting with various VTOL aircraft during the cold war in the end they didn't go for any of them. in this alternate scenario.. what if Germany did order some into production? 1. Which design would be the most likely to lead to operation? they had the VAK 191, DO 31 (this...
  7. helmutkohl

    What if, France never left the Eurofighter consortium

    So we know some time in the early 80s, France split with the UK, West Germany, Italy and Spain, and developed the ACX into the Rafale, and the others made the Typhoon. the disagreement stemmed from a carrier variant. What if in this scenario, France never left and somehow the five of them...
  8. T

    Alpha Jet

    While some weird dudes are celebrating the epitomized image of an autocrat*, the french AdlAE discretely commemorates one of its hero pilot (Poet and novelist), Mr Antoine de Saint-Exupéry, Free French air Force pilot, Croix de Guerre with palms, MIA, with the birth of its most famous...
  9. A

    The Fleet Air Arm pivots toward Harriers and Escort cruiser - right from 1962

    As said in the tin. When you think about it, it would avoid an immense amount of suffering and money waste. Kind of - screw the Tigers - screw CVA-01 - screw Spey Phantoms do we agree all three above were expensive boondoggles ? so good riddance (sorry, that's the radical in me... !) Also...
  10. AeroFranz

    Kongsberg Naval Strike Missile - NSM - Discussion

    I apologize if the explanation turns out to be silly, but i'm looking at videos of the Kongsberg NSM. Test shots are seen launched and cruising with the engine intake on top, and then there's models at defense shows with the intake on the bottom. What is going on here?
  11. uk 75

    Getting a VSTOL airgroup into service

    A variety of threads cover the attempts by the USN to develop an airgroup suitable for its Sea Control Ships (SCS). The ships themselves have been well covered and individual VSTOL programmes have their own individual threads. What I want to do is compare what actually happened with what might...
  12. Sanglune

    Nevesbu's projects

    Hello, I'm looking for warships designed by Nevesbu (B.V. Nederlandse Verenigde Scheepsbouw Bureaus). Specifically for surface vessels, though I don't want to discourage discussion around their submersibles. So far I'm aware of a couple of designs: Project 1047 (files attached, source: Klaas...
  13. Grey Havoc

    Waffenträger Wiesel 1 development

    One of Porsche KG's (from 1972 onwards Porsche AG) interesting Cold War military projects. View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRb3o5OJsHo
  14. uk 75

    NATO Minuteman

    After the Cuban missile crisis in 1962 the US replaced its land based medium range ballistic missiles in Europe. While the Minuteman ICBM was the main national deterrent system, the role of countering Russian missiles aimed at Western Europe was taken on by Polaris (later Poseidon) submarines...
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    RCA Astra-1 - the (mostly unknown) CF-105 Arrow radar

    I checked, no thread for this one. It was developed by RCA between early 1956 and september 1958 when it was canned. Before and after these dates, ( sigh...) the prefered option was the MX-1179 / MA-1. While the Sparrow II missile is well known, Astra 1 remains kind of mystery. It has been...
  16. A

    Zumwalt "borrows" (and adapts) European carrier designs...

    ... instead of re-inventing the wheel in the 70's. The idea is to blend together, Zumwalt "cheaper decks" (SCS / VSS / CVV) and the too few carrier designs from Europe. To bolster NATO fleets on one side, and the USN on the other - more flattops on both sides of the Atlantic. That is...
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    Late 1960's USN Fletcher-class 'Harrier Carrier' concept

    Here's a really interesting account I found on Project Terminated, by Ronnie Serrano: '... a couple drawings were done by Pierre Mion for the U.S Navy in the late-1960s which shows using converted Fletcher-class destroyers into makeshift "Harrier Carriers". The plan at the time is to convert...
  18. Grey Havoc

    Next-Generation Rotorcraft Capability (NGRC)

    https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/11/20/five-european-allies-sign-on-to-build-natos-next-medium-lift-helicopter/
  19. A Tentative Fleet Plan

    Evolutionary National Tank

    View: https://youtu.be/RvlfWqCcMdk Essentially a British equivalent to the American Block III MBT, and Soviet Object 477.
  20. uk 75

    Canada buys the A-4 Skyhawk

    Did Canada ever consider the A4 Skyhawk for its carrier aviation and Norway reinforcement role (instead of F5)? Would have been able to operate with USN/USMC.
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