Space shuttle turbofans for ferry flight

Separation of function allow both--Falcon and X-37 were both flown back... separately.

If X-37 ate Falcon, then it would be the Rockwell X-33 that you called the wrong path.

It was at least more conventional than DC-X or VentureStar.

Maybe you could get a winged-strap-on out of that at least

Was everyone who suggested jets on winged rockets wrong and you correct?
wrong again, X-37 is just one of many payloads and not part of the launch vehicle. The fact that it flies back has no bearing on the launch vehicle or the other payloads. What is the reason for X-37 to "eat" Falcon? What would be the purpose and if any, advantages of such a vehicle?

BTW, Rockwell X-33 wasn't an orbital vehicle. And actually, DC-X would have been the better choice because it more like today's vehicles.

Was everyone who suggested jets on winged rockets wrong and you correct?
yep
 
Imagine if the orbiter ate its External Tank :)
That was the Rockwell X-33 path.

By keeping the rocketry part needed to achieve orbit outside the airframe--you don't have to fly just one kind of orbiter. One might be less or a brick, with a more streamlined crew compartment.

There is a wonderful quote on page 94 of Jenkins' book called LOCKHEED SECRET PROJECTS--INSIDE THE SKUNK WORKS, a quote about how the VentureStar design morphed from internal payload bays to a hump, and finally the payload:

"had been moved completely out of the vehicle and into a piggyback container. This may not be detrimental since it would allow the vehicle to carry payloads of almost any given size and shape, at least within some aerodynamic and thermal considerations."

--thus my advocacy of parallel staging and piggyback payload mount of the modular Buran approach.

As for the unmanned rocket core once shed...have that come back like Starship...use it as a wet workshop...expend it.. whatever. At least it's parasite mass doesn't interfere with the flight dynamics of the space-plane.

It makes self-ferry MUCH easier.

Fly it at air shows when not hooked to a booster.
The Rockwell Shuttle based demonstrator concept was the most straightforward and promising of the X-33 candidates, but NASA went for the shiny glitzy lifting body thingamajig because excitingly different - ooh, until it failed basic testing...
 
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Jets are dead weight going up...SSMEs and tankage dead weight coming down...where you might just want those jets...which don't take up as much space.

Give the pilot the wings and jets, and the tankage and rocket engines can come down on their own, or be re-used a different way.
 
Jets are dead weight going up...SSMEs and tankage dead weight coming down...
No, the SSME and tankage are coming back to be reused. The jet engines don't help with getting into orbit or coming back.
..where you might just want those jets...which don't take up as much space.
That would be wrong, they do take up space and mass
Give the pilot the wings and jets, and the tankage and rocket engines can come down on their own, or be re-used a different way.
Just no. No Buran or Shuttle orbiter is needed. If crew is going fly, use a small crew spacecraft (capsule, lifting body or wings doesn't matter and jets are not needed). Just don't let it be part of the launch vehicle. If a payload is going to orbit, don't use a launch vehicle with a crew.

Exception to these rules. Once a launch vehicle is able to achieve and demonstrate airliner type operations with 100s of launches and recoveries with no incidents (or minor ones), then crew can fly on it without a crew spacecraft.
 
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