SNCAO ("CAO") Projects

[Justo Miranda]

Hi! CAO 200 mockup and prototype without small fin which located at the horizontal tail stabilizer.

http://forum.aviation-ancienne.fr/t6246p60-quizz-avions
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/cao200.html

CAO 200 prototype here

 

[hesham]

A comprehensive article about CAO.200,CAO.500 & CAO.1000 is on Avions magazine No.235.

 

[riggerrob]

CAO 200's small, auxiliary vertical fins indicate that the tail arm is too short or the central fin is too small to maintain directional stability (yaw).
Those after-market fins are often installed on Cessna, DeHavilland, etc. floatplanes to compensate for the extra side area of floats forward of the centre of gravity.

 

[Deltafan]

Hi,
Here is a drawing of the CAO.500, from the book Nieuport 1909-1950.
Adrien

Hi,
we know the SNCAO-1000 was developed from SNCAO-500,can we imagine its shape ?.

Hi,

In issue 236 of Avions (September-October 2020) there is a photo of a wind tunnel model of the CAO 1000. It looks like the wind tunnel model of the CAO-500, but with a more profiled frame (especially the windshield) and with the wings of the CAO 200 (and, of course, no auxiliary vertical fins and no floats)

 

[Deltafan]

On this link about the story of the ONERA (the French NACA/NASA) we can see (page 75) that the wind tunnel model of the CAO 1000 was tested in 1939 (file number 477/E)

https://docplayer.fr/62076991-Onera-archives-des-essais-en-soufflerie.html

 

[hesham]

Oh yes my dear Deltafan,

and I hope to get SNCAO CAO,1100 to CAO.1400 ?.

 

[Deltafan]

Oh yes my dear Deltafan,
and I hope to get SNCAO CAO,1100 to CAO.1400 ?.

Sorry, nothing for the moment.

 

[hesham]

On this link about the story of the ONERA (the French NACA/NASA) we can see (page 75) that the wind tunnel model of the CAO 1000 was tested in 1939 (file number 477/E)

https://docplayer.fr/62076991-Onera-archives-des-essais-en-soufflerie.html

The SNCAO CAO.1000 and CAO.500.

 

[foiling]

Hi! CAO 200 mockup and prototype without small fin which located at the horizontal tail stabilizer.

http://forum.aviation-ancienne.fr/t6246p60-quizz-avions
http://www.airwar.ru/enc/fww2/cao200.html

CAO 200 prototype here

Magnificent artwork.

 

[hesham]

From, Avions 235.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1976,

the SNCAO CAO.700,CAO.710 & CAO,720.

 

[Caravellarella]

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/c-a-o-700.8579/

 

[Tim52413]

Hello. I have met this project for a long time. Besides these pictures, are there any drawings of this aircraft? Thank you in advance and I apologize for the importunity.

 

[Silencer1]

Very interesting images - I never see this project previously. Thanks for sharing!

 

[hesham]

Hello. I have met this project for a long time. Besides these pictures, are there any drawings of this aircraft? Thank you in advance and I apologize for the importunity.
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If you use the search you will find me sent it before,here;
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/sncao-cao-projects.6867/#post-171092

 

[Tonton-42]

Hello. I have met this project for a long time. Besides these pictures, are there any drawings of this aircraft? Thank you in advance and I apologize for the importunity.
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CAD CAD-810 dive bomber project (France. 1939).
The CAO-810 nose-down bomber was to use the Hispano-Suiza 12Y 89 engine with 1200 HP or the Hispano-Suiza 12Z turbocharged 1300 HP. It will not have time to be developed.
The author of the drawing is Sosthène-Waroff Billault. Drawing made from the factory plans.

 

[Tim52413]

If you use the search you will find me sent it before,here;
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/sncao-cao-projects.6867/#post-171092

Yes, I saw your message (my mistake is that I didn't specify the link). So, apart from these two pictures, there is nothing?

 

[Tim52413]

CAD CAD-810 dive bomber project (France. 1939).
The CAO-810 nose-down bomber was to use the Hispano-Suiza 12Y 89 engine with 1200 HP or the Hispano-Suiza 12Z turbocharged 1300 HP. It will not have time to be developed.
The author of the drawing is Sosthène-Waroff Billault. Drawing made from the factory plans.

Thanks for the information.

 

[Tonton-42]

Thanks for the information.

I have no merit ! That was found on FB group I'm member ...

 

[hesham]

CAD CAD-810 dive bomber project (France. 1939).
The CAO-810 nose-down bomber was to use the Hispano-Suiza 12Y 89 engine with 1200 HP or the Hispano-Suiza 12Z turbocharged 1300 HP. It will not have time to be developed.
The author of the drawing is Sosthène-Waroff Billault. Drawing made from the factory plans.

By the way,it was developed from SNCAO CAO.800,all details you'll find
it in my new book.

 

[Tim52413]

By the way,it was developed from SNCAO CAO.800,all details you'll find
it in my new book.

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the title of your book?

 

[hesham]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the title of your book?

French Militray Aircraft : 1919-1945.

 

[airman]

French Militray Aircraft : 1919-1945.

Are still in drafting ?

 

[hesham]

Are still in drafting ?

No my dear Airman,we finished it,but wait the publisher and his opinion ?.

 

[Tim52413]

Is it possible to raise a topic that was raised a long time ago?

 

[Tim52413]

Has there been any new information about the SNCAO CAO-810 project?

 

[hesham]

Has there been any new information about the SNCAO CAO-810 project?

It's here,

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/sncao-cao-projects.6867/#post-198228

 

[Tim52413]

It's here,

https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/sncao-cao-projects.6867/#post-198228

Unfortunately, I have already seen this. I'm interested in the blueprints, but apparently there aren't any.

 

[hesham]

Unfortunately, I have already seen this. I'm interested in the blueprints, but apparently there aren't any.

It's in reply # 22,and I have a more Info.

 

[Tim52413]

It's in reply # 22,and I have a more Info.

Do I understand correctly that only these pictures remain from this project? I'm sorry, but the project looks really cool, but there are no drawings.

 

[Tim52413]

It's in reply # 22,and I have a more Info.

I just realized that I was very stupid. I already asked the same question last year. You told me that all the information can be found in your book.

 

[hesham]

Hi,


and finally the SNCAO CAO-810 dive bomber project,it was three seat low-mid wing,
powered by single engine,may be turboprop with twin tail fin,here is from two pictures,
from ebay on a site and a sketch to it from anther site;

http://forum.aviation-ancienne.fr/t790p915-quizz-enigmes
http://www.small-wings.org/t393-bombardier-en-pique-cao-810

Who can make a good 3-view to it,I have only this.

 

[Tim52413]

Who can make a good 3-view to it,I have only this.

In this scheme, CAO-810 looks too strange.

 

[Tim52413]

Who can make a good 3-view to it,I have only this.

Sarastro had good schemes in a conversation about Praga aircraft. Maybe he can help?

 

[hesham]

In this scheme, CAO-810 looks too strange.

Hi Tim,yes it's.

 

[hesham]

From Aviation magazine 1978.

 

[iverson]

From Aviation magazine 1978.

See http://modelarchives.free.fr/Bestiaire/Kolko_P/index.html

 

[hesham]

The Kolko ACA.5.

https://www.forosegundaguerra.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=13480

 

[hesham]

From Aero Journal 96