Convair Models 58,60,61 & 62 Transport Aircraft

[Mark Nankivil]

1963 Convair 1010 ("Ten-Ten") brochure​

The accompanying text is full of crap (taken from an alternate timeline website) but the pics are worth the while:
https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/1963-convair-1010-twin-engine-3775805379

Looks like a DC-9-10 mated with a Jetstar and had offspring.... Mark

 

[BlackBat242]

Looks like a DC-9-10 mated with a Jetstar and had offspring.... Mark

To me it looks closer to the Sud Aviation SE 210 Caravelle - which was awarded passenger certification in 1959 after having done flying sales tours throughout Europe, North Africa, and both South & North America in 1956/57.
Development had started in 1952, with first flight in 1955, and 282 built by end of production in 1972.



So it is quite possible that the horizontal stabilizer position shown in the 1963 Convair 1010 booklet may well have been influenced by the Caravelle.

I expect that Convair dropped the Model 61/1010 projects because there were too many competitors already in the market...

1. Caravelle.

2. The DH 121 (HS 121 Trident) was formally announced in February 1958, with first flight in January 1962.

3. The B727 was announced in December 1960, with first flight in February 1963.

4. The BAC 1-11 was announced in May 1961, with first flight in August 1963.

5. The Fokker F28 Fellowship was announced in April 1962, with first flight in May 1967.

6. Douglas had been working with Sud in 1960-62 to try to sell the Caravelle in the US, but Douglas dropped that and announced the development of the DC-9 in April 1963, with first flight in February 1965.

 

[fightingirish]

Four new pictures showing the "Convair CV-1010" model have been uploaded to SDASM Flickr Archive today.
IMHO here the two best pictures.

https://flic.kr/p/2pB6uEs

View: https://flic.kr/p/2pB6uEs

https://flic.kr/p/2pAYNFy

View: https://flic.kr/p/2pAYNFy

 

[fightingirish]

From Air Pictorial 5/1958,

the scale-down version of Convair Model-880,estimated to be powered by two General Electric
X220 turbofan engines.

Could be this Convair 880 Airlifter illustration and model, which were uploaded to SDASM flickr archive today.

https://flic.kr/p/2pSnshz

View: https://flic.kr/p/2pSnshz

https://flic.kr/p/2pSkgpN

View: https://flic.kr/p/2pSkgpN
More model pictures and wind tunnel models are shown at SDASM flickr archive.
Dear mods, if necessary, feel free to move this post to a more suitable topic.

 

[Pengabdi Langit]

I hope, reviving this old thread is ok, but in Aero 4/1960, I've found a drawing with the
caption "Convair 60" described as a short haul airliner, derived with minimum efforts from
the 880/990. It should have been powered by P&W JTD3D or GE CJ 805 engines and carried
between 65 to 85 passengers. As reaction from the carriers was luke warm, Convair shifted
to a version, which used the wing of the 880 and is described as desiganted "Convair 49",
following the take-off distance of 4900ft (1500m).

actually I like the blueprint idea and the 3D rendering. I need to make the 3D version of it, to make it as immortal 3D shaped instead of speculative 2D blueprints only. I bet it will be a fun project IMO. Wish me Luck

 

[Pengabdi Langit]

I hope, reviving this old thread is ok, but in Aero 4/1960, I've found a drawing with the
caption "Convair 60" described as a short haul airliner, derived with minimum efforts from
the 880/990. It should have been powered by P&W JTD3D or GE CJ 805 engines and carried
between 65 to 85 passengers. As reaction from the carriers was luke warm, Convair shifted
to a version, which used the wing of the 880 and is described as desiganted "Convair 49",
following the take-off distance of 4900ft (1500m).

Maybe this 3D model I made in my CAD engine. IMO this is the closes thing it may actually might look like as modern 3D model in 2026. Its all based on the 3-point view of the given sketch. Its using CJ805, logically it is using those powerplant given Convair's very much CV-990 powerplants used them.

I do wonder if in alternate future exists, they may use JT8D series like 737-200 series, or even wild enough, down into 737 Classic-NG path or even toe-to-toe with a320 if it had survived into year 1990s. Its a wild idea to think of actually.

Its fun to CAD this long gone and forgotten jet.

 

[Pengabdi Langit]

Maybe this 3D model I made in my CAD engine. IMO this is the closes thing it may actually might look like as modern 3D model in 2026. Its all based on the 3-point view of the given sketch. Its using CJ805, logically it is using those powerplant given Convair's very much CV-990 powerplants used them.

I do wonder if in alternate future exists, they may use JT8D series like 737-200 series, or even wild enough, down into 737 Classic-NG path or even toe-to-toe with a320 if it had survived into year 1990s. Its a wild idea to think of actually.

Its fun to CAD this long gone and forgotten jet.

I do wonder if this aircraft can use CFM-56 or IAE V2500 engine

Can it?

 

[Pengabdi Langit]

Artist's impression of Convair Model 61 previously hotlinked in this topic.

Three-view drawing of Convair Model 61 previously hotlinked in this topic.

Line drawing of Convair Model 61 cabin configuration.

Source: http://s161.photobucket.com/home/AVKent882

This my take as 3D artist to model this aircraft:

engines = 2x CJ-805-23
base fuselage length = assumed as Model 60 sized at about 34.5 m
total length = 39.4 m
wingspan = about 37.5 m, taken from modified CV-880-22M wing

surely I bet, this airframe may use JT8D had it go into service, and may actually compete with the DC-9 series. I took the image from the 3-view drawing here as the reference, sadly the original number is a bit washed off hard to read

 

[hesham]

From AW 1960.