Convair Models 58,60,61 & 62 Transport Aircraft

[hesham]

Hi,

The Convair Model-60 was a project of twin engined airliner
powered by either P&W JT3D-5 or GE C1805-41C turbofans,
it was in class of DH-121 and Boeing-727.

 

[hesham]

Hi,

Can I ask if Convair Model-62 was also airliner project as I heard
or not ?.

 

[Skybolt]

Aha, just two hours ago I've seen the 3-view in a 1960 AW&ST issue !!!! If you are patient, I'll copy it when I go back to the library (not this week).

 

[Sentinel Chicken]

Yeah that one day turnaround time on information is a killer, isn't it?

 

[Skybolt]

Uh, yes, but I was looking for something else (totally else...) ;D

 

[hesham]

Hi,

I discovered that the Convair Model-62 was a stretched version of
Model-58 (civil projects from B-58 ) and could accommodated 52-
passengers as supersonic transport aircraft,powered by four P & W
J58 engines,but I can't send a drawing to it now.

 

[lark]

Hesham,
You can take a look in the 'Civil Aircraft' department of
Orionlam's site about the civil B-58 variant...

 

[hesham]

Hi,

the Convair Model-58 and Model-62.

 

[LowObservable]

Air Force One based on a stretched B-58...
You could repeal the 22nd amendment!

 

[Jemiba]

I hope, reviving this old thread is ok, but in Aero 4/1960, I've found a drawing with the
caption "Convair 60" described as a short haul airliner, derived with minimum efforts from
the 880/990. It should have been powered by P&W JTD3D or GE CJ 805 engines and carried
between 65 to 85 passengers. As reaction from the carriers was luke warm, Convair shifted
to a version, which used the wing of the 880 and is described as desiganted "Convair 49",
following the take-off distance of 4900ft (1500m).

 

[Skybolt]

Thanks Jens ! That's the 3.view I say in AW ! Probably was a press briefing materiel.

 

[fightingirish]

The Convair Model 60 / Model 61 was a design-proposal for a scaled-down Convair-880, which was conceived as a rival to the Boeing-737.
The following picture links and quotes are stolen from a.net:

Description: Photo depicts a design-proposal for a scaled-down Convair-880 derivative known as the Model 60, which was conceived as a rival to the Boeing-737. The aircraft was to be powered by a pair of wing-mounted, aft-fanned CJ-805-23 turbofans and utilized virtually the same wing as the Convair-880M.

Description: Photo depicts an artist's impression of the Convair Model-60 twin-jet design concept shown in an early Eastern-Airlines livery.

Description: Photo depicts an artist-impression of the T-tailed Convair Model-61 twin-jet concept in an early Eastern Airlines livery.

Description: Photo depicts an artist-impression of the T-tailed Convair Model-61 twin-jet concept in an early Eastern Airlines livery.

Two model pictures at the SDASM Archives.
Link: http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=2&w=49487266%40N07&q=Model+61&m=text

 

[hesham]

My dear Fightingirish,

please see;
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2044.0/highlight,convair+60.html

 

[Stargazer2006]

I think the title ought to reflect the fact that this topic is about both the Models 60 AND 61 since these are quite distinct designs.

 

[Antonio]

renamed topic

 

[Triton]

Model of Convair Model 61 from the San Diego Air and Space Museum Archive.

Source: http://www.flickr.com/search/?ss=2&w=49487266%40N07&q=Model+61&m=text

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Convair Model 60 previously hotlinked in this topic.

Three-view drawing of Convair Model 60 previously hotlinked in this topic.

Source: http://s161.photobucket.com/home/AVKent882

 

[Triton]

Artist's impression of Convair Model 61 previously hotlinked in this topic.

Three-view drawing of Convair Model 61 previously hotlinked in this topic.

Line drawing of Convair Model 61 cabin configuration.

Source: http://s161.photobucket.com/home/AVKent882

 

[hesham]

From Air Pictorial 5/1958,


the scale-down version of Convair Model-880,estimated to be powered by two General Electric
X220 turbofan engines.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Good Day All -

Here are higher resolution images of the Model 61 display model courtesy of the San Diego Air & Space Museum.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[hesham]

Here are higher resolution images of the courtesy of the San Diego Air & Space Museum.

Fantastic Models mark,many thanks.

 

[hesham]

From Air Pictorial 4/1955,


a strange Convair airliner design,accommodated 60 passenger and had a "high-wing",
and intended for Convair-Liner replacement,what was this ?.

 

[Stargazer2006]

From Air Pictorial 4/1955,


a strange Convair airliner design,accommodated 60 passenger and had a "high-wing",
and intended for Convair-Liner replacement,what was this ?.

Certainly not related to the Models 60 and 61. Perhaps related to the N-2 series of designs (date fits perfectly). See:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10228.0

 

[hesham]

Certainly not related to the Models 60 and 61. Perhaps related to the N-2 series of designs (date fits perfectly). See:
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10228.0

My dear Skyblazer,


the problem is still there,it was a "high-wing" design ?.

 

[Stargazer2006]

the problem is still there,it was a "high-wing" design ?.

So far I haven't seen a precise description of the N-2 series of designs. It is very possible that a high-wing configuration was considered. After all, Martin did the same at some point on a 2-0-2 derivative study. And don't forget even Convair toyed with the idea earlier on with their Model 107 project.

 

[Mark Nankivil]

Good Day All -

A 3 view of the Model 60 from the August 1, 1960 Av Week.

Enjoy the Day! Mark

 

[riggerrob]

That Convair supersonic model almost looks like it has wings from a B58 Hustler supersonic bomber.
Clearly, Convair was trying to build civilian transport based on military experience ...... the same way Boeing used lessons-learned on B47 and B52 bombers when designing their 707 airliner.

 

[hesham]

From AW 1960.

 

[fightingirish]

These pictures were recently uploaded to the SDASM Flickr Archives :

https://flic.kr/p/2oUh2Pi

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https://flic.kr/p/2oUjA7s

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https://flic.kr/p/2oUjAaU

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