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Offline Hikoki1946

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Japanese Rammer Project
« on: January 09, 2009, 10:57:05 am »
Also in the Maru Special book on the Reppu (which, if you love the Reppu, this book is for you. Hobby Link Japan has it on backorder right now) was this little bit in the back. It is a sketch of a rocket powered rammer. Another piece of art elsewhere in the book shows two of them in action, one having cleaved off the tail plane of a B-29. It would appear it was recoverable as the wing tips were depicted as having landing skids and it looked to be heavily reinforced to enable it to survive the impact and that the cockpit and canopy were armored. I don't recognize much out of the text save it is a 1944 or 1945 concept.

We know the flood gates of German technology were finally opened in 1945 and perhaps some of the German rammer plans or concepts filtered over? It has a wingform much like the Kayaba gliders and Katsuodori ramjet fighter and, dare I say, a Lippisch-like tail with the cockpit blended into it.

Someone taking a crack at the Japanese may shed some light on it. Be interesting if it was a genuine project and not something made up.

One of the other neat drawings was a profile of a turbojet powered Nakajima J1N Gekko.

Cheers!


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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2009, 08:12:23 am »
Hi everybody

Thanks a lot for the sketch ! Pelzig
Very interesting design ! There are still some unknown projects !

"Another piece of art elsewhere in the book shows two of them in action, one having cleaved off the tail plane of a B-29."
Wow ! Maybe you can show us the picture ?

Here the Kayaba Katsuodori
http://www.j-aircraft.org/xplanes/

Thanks a lot in advance
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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #2 on: January 12, 2009, 08:38:34 am »
If you'll take a look on the Peter's - Flitzerart- site
you will see the Katsudori in all it's glory...

(Japanese secret projects chapter)

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2009, 10:11:37 am »
Here is the color picture. It spanned two pages, hence the line in the middle.



Wow ! Maybe you can show us the picture ?

Thanks a lot in advance
moin1900


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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2009, 11:36:31 am »
Thanks a lot ! Thanks for the fast reply !  Pelzig
Many greetings
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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #5 on: January 13, 2009, 03:36:46 am »
That's great finding, thanks Pelzig

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #6 on: January 13, 2009, 11:27:10 am »
Quite welcome! I'm hoping someone can summarize the article so we can all learn more about the design.  ;D

That's great finding, thanks Pelzig

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #7 on: January 13, 2009, 12:20:49 pm »
Here some speculative drawings of Ginga variants,from UNKNOWN! N.3

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2009, 05:13:58 am »
Do you have any verification on the sources for the Oka 53 being unmanned? On another forum, the topic came up and the unmanned Oka 53 was considered a post-war fantasy.

Here some speculative drawings of Ginga variants,from UNKNOWN! N.3

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2009, 08:57:18 am »
Ohka 53 sources (Post-1)

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2009, 09:00:11 am »
Ohka 53 sources (Post-2)

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2009, 09:03:39 am »
I guess my inquiry wasn't clear.  ;D

I know the Oka 53 was planned. The question concerns where is the evidence to suggest it was not a manned weapon but was, instead, a unmanned glider bomb that was towed aloft. A manned Oka 53 could certainly be towed up and in most sources, this is implied but never stated one way or the other.

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Ohka 53 sources (Post-2)

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2009, 09:05:50 am »
Ohka 53 sources (Post-3)
From "Japanese aircraft of the Pacific War" by René J. Francillon
Putnam 1970

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2009, 09:12:30 am »
Ohka 53 sources (Post-4)
From "Japanese Aircraft Industry in WW2"
USAF 1946 Report
ISO  Publications

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Re: Japanese Rammer Project
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2009, 09:18:14 am »