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Offline Abraham Gubler

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Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« on: April 30, 2008, 10:56:15 pm »
Does anyone have any information on the design for the enlarged S-3 Viking offered as a carrier onboard delivery (COD) aircraft in competition with the second batch of Grumman Greyhounds? And I don’t mean the US-3 which was just a stripped ASW Viking for high speed COD duties. Apparently this super Viking COD had a new fuselage, engines and seats for up to 30 passengers.

http://www.vectorsite.net/avs3.html
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 09:36:30 am »
Did not JP Santiago (aka Sentinel Chicken) do some what-iff's of a Viking COD with a longer fuselage?
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2008, 11:14:53 am »
Do you mean these:




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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2008, 05:57:58 pm »
Yes!!!  ;D

Note also new main gear!
Maybe JP Santiago / Sentinel Chicken or someone else can give us info, if this concept is based on facts or on fiction.
If fiction, the mods have the right to move this thread over to Scale Modelling, CGI and Profiles forum.
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2008, 11:36:37 pm »
Nope, the Vector site article is pretty clear that the Lockheed COD would have a new fuselage and engines and not just a remodelled aft fuselage. It would also have seats for 30 which is quite large.
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2008, 11:06:44 am »
Hi there

Has anybody got any info or pics on the proposed smaller "mini" or "micro" s-3 viking intended to operate from smaller carriers?

Many thanks

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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2008, 08:03:54 pm »
My COD version was purely conjectural on my part. Couldn't find any info at the time on the COD Viking so more or less took a wild-arse guess.

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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2008, 07:19:24 am »
My COD version was purely conjectural on my part. Couldn't find any info at the time on the COD Viking so more or less took a wild-arse guess.

Looks good nonetheless! :)
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2008, 06:29:16 am »
Greetings All -

I did not find a previous thread looking at AEW variants/proposals of the S-3 so started up this one.  This model is in the possession of the Frontiers of Flight Museum at Love Field in Dallas, TX.  This is a Vought/LTV proposal for an AEW variant of the S-3.  Makes sense coming from Vought as they did the Navy acceptance qualification work for the original S-3 and obviously had far more navair experience than Lockheed.  Not bad looking either....

Any other proposals out there to replace the E-2?  There's the joined wing Boeing design in another thread but what else might be out there?

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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2008, 12:09:03 pm »
An older thread

Lockheed & Grumman Multiple Purpose Subsonic Naval Aircraft (MPSNA) studies (1986)

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,2012.0/highlight,lockheed+grumman.html

As a side note on the E-2 in general, its been said that Vought's E-2 submission was superior to Grumman's but the contract went to Grumman anyway.  The more aerodynamic antannae from Vought's proposal found its way into the Hawkeye.

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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2010, 04:09:39 pm »
Model of AEW (Airborne Early Warning) version of Lockheed S-3 Viking.

Source: http://s22.photobucket.com/albums/b336/Bager1968/Aircraft/AEW%20aircraft/?action=view&current=ES-3c-001.jpg
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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2012, 07:42:10 pm »
A recent issue of Naval History magazine had an article by Norman Polmar about the S-3 Viking. It mentioned the stretched COD version of the aircraft that was proposed in the 1980s. It did not mention a new fuselage or seats for 30, only a fuselage plug of 70 inches.

The vector website is gone. Anybody know what it referred to?

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Re: Lockheed S-3 Viking Variants and Projects
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2012, 10:48:46 am »
The vector website is gone. Anybody know what it referred to?
Not gone, the author just hived off the aviation side of his site to a separate URL. The relevant article can now be found here:
http://www.airvectors.net/avs3.html