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Offline Nico

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Fliegerfaust for Mijaheddyn?
« on: December 07, 2018, 04:47:30 am »
Some time ago, it must have been in 2013-2014, I was able to see in a movie (maybe on YouTube) a guerrilla with the typical Chitral cap used by ethnic Afghans Pashtun, equipped with a weapon system that looked like a German Fliegerfaust / Luftfaust and the militian who used it pointed it upwards. The video commentary made it clear that it was an anti-helicopter weapon.
I thought it could be the TsNI Mashinostroeniya Kolos (spike), ie the USSR copy of the 20 mm German anti-aircraft rocket launcher HASAG Fliegerfaust B Luftfaust, developed in Germany at 1944 forwarded.
I do not know how much the Soviet weapon was similar to the German one or if it came into service: there was talk of the possible supply to Vietcong and North Vietnam around 1964-1968 but it is difficult to understand how these weapons could have ended up in Afghanistan and hand to the mujaheddyn.
At the time I did not think about looking for the YouTube movie and taking a screenshot. Did any of you see it?
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Re: Fliegerfaust for Mijaheddyn?
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2018, 06:26:29 am »
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I do not know how much the Soviet weapon was similar to the German one or if it came into service: there was talk of the possible supply to Vietcong and North Vietnam around 1964-1968 but it is difficult to understand how these weapons could have ended up in Afghanistan and hand to the mujaheddyn.
This Soviet launcher Kolos (spelled as"kowos". i.e. ear of grain) was generally tubular in shape, with pistol grips and detachable rear part with a nozzle, acting as a loader. It weighted 9.2 kg and fired 7 spin stabilized 30 mm rockets NRS-30, reaching 560 m/s velocity, while the range was 500 and 2000 m against air and surface targets respectively.
Construction of Kolos was ordered by the defense ministry in June 1966 only, trials were conducted from June 1967 to May 1968 with positive results, but the weapon was never put into service nor production because the Strela 2 was accepted at the same time. So I dont's believe, anyone could use the actual Kolos launchers anywhere now.




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Re: Fliegerfaust for Mijaheddyn?
« Reply #2 on: December 07, 2018, 09:37:40 am »
Thanks Grzesio,
for the information and for the photo of the Kolos, that I had never seen before. If the memory does not betray me, what I saw in the hands of the mujaheddyn, however, seems to be the German version ... I wonder how it could have arrived in Afghanistan. Maybe WW II war booty ended up clandestine streets in the hands of Afghan insugents?
Thanks again

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Re: Fliegerfaust for Mijaheddyn?
« Reply #3 on: December 07, 2018, 10:04:17 am »
Haven't found much more on the Kolos so far. As Grzesio has noted, it was initially developed during the late 1960s (66-68) as a mass produced low cost anti-aircraft weapon for pro-soviet guerrilla and revolutionary organisations, in particular the Viet Cong. Despite successful trials, it was then decided to supply such groups with the SA-7 instead (arguably not the best of ideas given the rather poor performance of early SA-7s, not even mentioning the cost). There is some speculation though that the Kolos was subsequently revived at least briefly as a cheap anti-helicopter weapon for the Red Army, for issue to rear echelon and support units (the Soviets were pretty concerned by the potential of the U.S. Air Cavalry at the time).

If the Kolos did see some production & usage as such, it is quite possible that during the Khan regime that the Afghan army received (surplus?) examples of the Kolos as part of Soviet military aid packages.
« Last Edit: December 07, 2018, 10:29:19 am by Grey Havoc »
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