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Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« on: August 09, 2018, 06:36:46 am »
Hi,

in Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a very good article about BAC TSR.2,with
many drawings.

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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2018, 04:12:35 am »
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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2018, 06:05:07 am »
Can anyone tell me exactly what purpose the aircraft was designed to serve?

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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2018, 07:18:27 am »
I think the Aussies sussed it - a very expensive way to deliver HE.

I'm expecting this lot at Bristow's when I come in.

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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2018, 07:31:51 am »
Can anyone tell me exactly what purpose the aircraft was designed to serve?
Tactical Strike Reconnaissance and show off in general. It also continued the great British tradition of spending lots of money and having nothing to show for it  ;D

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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2018, 08:35:39 am »
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TSR2 SUPPLEMENT

TEST PILOT PERSPECTIVES
Two of the three men who flew the TSR2, Don Knight and the late Jimmy Dell, recall their part in the programme

ROOM FOR A VIEW
A TSR2 engineer remembers a head-up display challenge

STRIKING POWER
The weapons that would have formed the TSR2’s arsenal

THE REPLACEMENT SAGA
The debates didn’t go away when the TSR2 was cancelled — far from it, in fact
Source: https://aeroplanemonthly.keypublishing.com/the-magazine/view-issue/?issueID=7420
According to the database of my local newsagent, these two articles are from Chris Gibson, aka CJGibson here in this forum.  ;) :)
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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2018, 05:10:24 pm »
A nice read, especially Mr Gibson's contribution.
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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2018, 08:29:10 pm »
It's particularly tragic when a great aircraft design is cancelled in favor of something that turns out to be a dud.  In the case of the Avro Arrow, it was the Bomarc, a definite dud; eventually Canada bought the F-101 Voodoo, which at least was a reasonable aircraft.  In the case of the TSR2, it was the F-111, a real dud since it never entered service with the RAF!  The eventual replacement, I guess, was a combination of the Buccaneer and the Phantom.

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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2018, 09:23:09 pm »
It's particularly tragic when a great aircraft design is cancelled in favor of something that turns out to be a dud.  In the case of the Avro Arrow, it was the Bomarc, a definite dud; eventually Canada bought the F-101 Voodoo, which at least was a reasonable aircraft.  In the case of the TSR2, it was the F-111, a real dud since it never entered service with the RAF!  The eventual replacement, I guess, was a combination of the Buccaneer and the Phantom.

I would argue that the TSR.2's eventual replacement was the Tornado, which I actually consider a much more useful aircraft than the TSR.2 would have been. I meen that in the sense that, IMHO, the TSR.2 was too specialized and it's small wing would have limited it in other roles. Whereas, I think the Tornado was a better multirole aircraft. While the F.3 was a modified and specialized Tornado, I think it handled the interceptor role well.

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Re: Aeroplane Monthly 2018-9,a Good Article about BAC TSR.2
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2018, 02:03:28 am »
Its good to see a mainstream magazine taking a more nuanced approach to the TSR.2 saga. There can't be much left to cover now, so these more tangential aspects, like the engineer's viewpoints are very welcome.
Also in the same magazine is an article on the British evaluation of the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow.