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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #90 on: August 07, 2014, 03:36:12 am »
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At the end of the day, in that era, performance estimation was something even the experts could get grossly wrong, usually with unpleasant consequences for the design.

Looks like this is the case. Comparisons with other aircraft - Mirage III, Mig 21, Delta Dagger, F4D Skyray  did not show any discernible trends. I did try comparing the square root of wing loading, there was a rough variance of about 40%.  Accurate figures for stall speeds are hard to come by as well.

I will simply list the known wing loadings and specifications of the other comparable fighters to get a rough idea of the performance of the N-102.

Does "Secretprojects.co.uk" have a database of aircraft? It would seem a convenient place to put all this info in searchable form.

I notice the "Temco Model 31 VF Day  Fighter" is not listed anywhere, it has a similar layout.

http://retromechanix.com/temco-model-31-vf-day-fighter/nggallery/image/spot-illustration-of-the-temco-model-31-landing-on-a-carrier-deck-the-quality-of-the-artwork-in-the-temco-proposal-was-more-primitive-than-that-of-larger-companies-perhaps-reflecting-the-smaller-siz

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #91 on: October 12, 2014, 10:24:22 am »
Wow great find Macca!!!
Never thought I would be able to find a cut-away of the sadley overlooked and forgotten Fang  :o
 
Keep the search and finding coming  :P
 
P.S. that M61 shore does look much bigger in the Fang, when compared to the monsters like the Phantom II, Thunderchief etc........
 
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This modified cutaway make it some years ago and got two forums in which I participate, at least one friend decided to share it here too.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2014, 09:54:29 pm by PaulMM (Overscan) »

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #94 on: March 16, 2017, 01:56:51 pm »
I kinda want a model or three of the Fang. What a sweet design, and what a treasure trove of imagery! Thanks to everyone who's shared their stuff.

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #95 on: December 02, 2017, 02:05:34 pm »
Fang mockup cockpit.

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #96 on: December 02, 2017, 06:20:04 pm »
Nice find RAP!!

Thank's

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #97 on: December 02, 2017, 08:17:07 pm »
Why couldn't an FBW equipped version of this have been considered for the LWF competition? Seems like an effective aircraft that could have been made in numbers. Or used as a sub-LWF for customers needing something less.

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #98 on: August 12, 2018, 07:19:27 am »
Northrop ad from 1956.

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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #99 on: December 01, 2018, 03:33:58 pm »
Something I hadn't realized, even though his name is on the patent, is that Edgar Schmued, the designer of the P-51, was also one of the lead designers on Fang. You can even see him on the left in this pic post by Mark upthread;

Edgar Schmued and Fang

I know I'm usually late to the party, but I just thought I would point it out for others who hadn't noticed it before either. I just read this in the book on the development of the P-51. Of course, it was also noted in Tony Chong's post on the butterfly tail version as well. It just never clicked with me until I read the P-51 book.

Edit: OK, something else really interesting is that it was Echols who brought Schmued over to Northrop. It's interesting, because in the P-51 development book, Echols was the one primarily blocking the USAAC from using the P-51 as an escort fighter. The main reasons being that the P-51 was designed to a British Spec., not an American Spec., it was designed by a German emigre, and NA wasn't a big well known company like Curtiss or GM; Echols wanted the Curtiss P-60 as the new escort fighter and when that failed and it's and the P-40's designer Don Berlin left and went to GM, he had them try to develop an escort fighter, the XP-75. A lot of it also had to do with the whole bomber mentality that had infected the USAAC as well. The P-51 was almost the U.S. equivalent to the Me-262, but the British persisted, along with some U.S. pilots who had flown it, in getting it used as a fighter by the U.S.
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Re: Northrop N-102 Fang light fighter
« Reply #100 on: December 04, 2018, 02:34:39 am »
Thank you Sundog, I found the above info interesting!!

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