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Warning label from ETC 500/IX d bombrack installed on Junkers Ju 88A

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My guess: a warning label for maintenance crews that there is something pressurized underneath whatever hatch this plate was attached to. Of course we can get a better idea as soon as a german speaking forum member translates the text :)
 

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Sprengkorper seems to mean explosive, rather than pressurised, device. The diagram appears to be giving locations of something in a larger assembly?
 

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AeroFranz said:
My guess: a warning label for maintenance crews that there is something pressurized underneath whatever hatch this plate was attached to. Of course we can get a better idea as soon as a german speaking forum member translates the text :)

Yes, it's a warning label, but I'm not able to identify the white "thing" on the left side.
 

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It look like a warning, where explosive charges are situated,
maybe in a tunnel or a bridge ? After the war bridges here in germany
were prepared for self-destruction with "Sprengkammern" (explosive charge
chambers ?).
 

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German Sprengkörper = Explosive device

from look the Red things are pyrotechnic bolt aka Pyrotechnic fastener

this diagram is from East German NVA or West German Luftwaffe ?

the shape looks like a helicopter
if a Luftwaffe mabye Piasecki H-21 or Sikorsky S-55 (Westland Whirlwind)?
wen NVA then Mil Mi-14 ?
 

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Michel Van said:
German Sprengkörper = Explosive device

from look the Red things are pyrotechnic bolt aka Pyrotechnic fastener

this diagram is from East German NVA or West German Luftwaffe ?

the shape looks like a helicopter
if a Luftwaffe mabye Piasecki H-21 or Sikorsky S-55 (Westland Whirlwind)?
wen NVA then Mil Mi-14 ?

I don't believe of a NVA label, because the 'A' in 'Achtung' seems to be pre-1945.
 

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boxkite said:
I don't believe of a NVA label, because the 'A' in 'Achtung' seems to be pre-1945.

dam, your right that kind of 'A' was used by Third Reich Luftwaffe until 1945

by the way Justo Miranda
were have you find this warning label ?
 

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"doesn't sprengkörper refer to a container body with explosive/dynamite or a
hollowed out shape charge?"

"Sprengkörper" was (and is !) just an official german term for an explosive charge,
I think, no matter if HE, hollow charge or something else.
But boxkites clue seems to be very good, as it really could give us a rough time scale.
Then, probably no helicopter is shown. But maybe a weaposn/bomb pylon ? Michel
could be quite right then with pyrotechnical fasteners.
 

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Michel Van said:
boxkite said:
I don't believe of a NVA label, because the 'A' in 'Achtung' seems to be pre-1945.

dam, your right that kind of 'A' was used by Third Reich Luftwaffe until 1945

by the way Justo Miranda
were have you find this warning label ?


Sent by one of my clients ...
 

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the only Third Reich Luftwaffe Aircraft, i know that use explosive charge

is the Bachem Ba.349 Natter a rocket interceptor

after the mission the Natter pilot activate explosive charge
the plane disintegrates in several piece who land on ground
recollect and reassembly the Natter.
 

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Jemibas comment does make me think it might be a bomb-rack. It seems flat, so wasn't mounted on something like a bomb - so a fixed installation or something with flat sides...

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I thought of something like that :
 

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It may be an emergency explosive system to launch bombs from an ETC 500 rack beloging to a Ju 88 or Ju 188 .
 

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Hi guys!
The forum think tank has scored o new point.
Thanks to its valuable help I have been able to identify the unknown device.
It is a warning label from an ETC 500/IX d bombrack installed on a Ju 88A.

From Ju 88 A-1,A-5 Handbook (Teil 12 D) , june 1941.
Many thank to everyone!
 

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