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The first pic and specs of the Turkish aircraft carrier concept have been revealed:


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Ministry of National Defense: “With the decision taken upon the directive of our President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan to have a Domestic and National Aircraft Carrier, design activities were started by the Design Project Office of our Naval Forces Command.

In this context; In order to examine the National Aircraft carrier design on site, which was initiated by the Design Project Office Directorate and a significant progress was made on the concept design, on February 15, 2024, accompanied by the Commander of the Naval Forces, Admiral Ercüment Tatlıoğlu; President of Defense Industries Prof.Dr. Haluk Görgün, Rector of National Defense University Prof.Dr. Erhan Afyoncu, ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol, HAVELSAN General Manager Dr. Design Project Office Directorate was visited by Mehmet Akif Nacar, ROKETSAN General Manager Murat İkin and BAYKAR Technology Chairman of the Board Selçuk Bayraktar.

"During the visit, the National Aircraft carrier design activities, which were implemented with the high engineering-based superior design talent of the Design Project Office Directorate and the warship design tradition and experience crowned by our engineers with the design and manufacturing of the latest TCG Istanbul Frigate, were examined on-site."


From another source:

Design of the Turkish Aircraft Carrier Unveiled
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Turkish MoD has shared a rendered image of the future aircraft carrier's design on social media with some technical specifications.

The future ship, as expected, is significantly larger than TCG ANADOLU LHD at 285 m length and 60000 tonnes displacement. The officials have stated that the new ship will be larger to accommodate more aircraft.

What aircraft type will be used hasn't been disclosed, but a few KAAN fighter jets can be observed on the deck. This indicates that there are plans for a naval variant of Turkiye's first fighter jet. Other aircraft such as UAVs (Bayraktar TB3, KIZIELMA...) and helicopters can be expected.

It is stated that the operation type of aircraft will be Short Takeoff But Arrested Landing (STOBAR), used on Russian, Indian and early Chinese aircraft carriers. Instead of the catapult-assisted takeoff, this method is simpler and cheaper as a partially up-curved runway is used instead of a catapult. The landing is done by arresting gear and catching the aircraft with a hook using wires. TCG ANADOLU to operate Bayraktar TB3 UCAVs will adopt a similar principle.

A Combined Gas Turbine and Gas Turbine (COGAG) propulsion system will be used to provide a speed of 25 knots. Another case of Turkiye's use of COGAG propulsion on a large-sized warship is the DİMDEG logistic support ships. The design goal can explain why all-turbine propulsion must have the large-sized ships keep up with their escorts.

Overall, the design is closer to the likes of the British Queen Elizabeth class with its displacement between LHDs and full-sized nuclear-powered carriers like the U.S.'s Nimitz class. It can be regarded as a more achievable and sustainable goal with more manageable development and operation conditions compared to a nuclear-powered CATOBAR carrier of 300+ m in length.

The design was unveiled during the visit of Naval Forces Commander Admiral Ercüment Tatlıoğlu’s visit along with President of Defense Industry Agency Professor Haluk Görgün, Rector of National Defence University Professor Erhan Afyoncu, ASELSAN General Manager Ahmet Akyol, HAVELSAN General Manager Dr Mehmet Akif Nacar, ROKETSAN General Manager Murat Ikinci and BAYKAR Technology Chairman Selçuk Bayraktar to the Design Project Office Directorate.

https://www.turdef.com/article/design-of-the-turkish-aircraft-carrier-unveiled
 
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I don't think this carrier design can function properly with any other aircraft except F-35B. If they truly want to realize their carrier ambitions, they either have to change the design significantly or they have to try to get back to the F-35 program as a customer of the B variant.
 
I don't think this carrier design can function properly with any other aircraft except F-35B. If they truly want to realize their carrier ambitions, they either have to change the design significantly or they have to try to get back to the F-35 program as a customer of the B variant.
Why not?
It's marginally bigger than the INS Vikramaditya, and larger than the INS Vikrant, both STOBAR carriers which fly off the Mig-29 and are mooted for the Rafale M possibly in the pipeline.
Both those aircraft are 24 ton at MTOW.
Granted, they are a bit smaller and lighter than the projected KAAN, but both a possible naval KAAN and this carrier are still in their early phases.
 
Interesting design concept so far but why have they gone for STOBAR? And missing an angled deck something that I think that they will look into further down the road, so far I am liking what I am seeing.
 
Interesting design concept so far but why have they gone for STOBAR? And missing an angled deck something that I think that they will look into further down the road, so far I am liking what I am seeing.
STOBAR is probably the only approach compatible with their new indigenous aircraft.
STOVL is not on the table unless they reverse course on the whole S-400/F-35 situation. CATOBAR similarly unlikely unless they want to adopt the rather old-school Super Hornet, which might not even be available. (Rafale is off the table for geopolitical reasons.)
 
Interesting design concept so far but why have they gone for STOBAR? And missing an angled deck something that I think that they will look into further down the road, so far I am liking what I am seeing.
Because importing the catapults is out of the question and they have too many projects on hand. Hence from this perspective it is somewhat of a risk reducing measure but it could also cause other problems (this part is my view)

Anyway, this thing is still in the conceptual study phase and it has a long way to go before being built.
 
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So not good if Turkey goes down the China route then. I would think that Turkey could stick with the STOBAR carrier for now until they could at least design and build their own EMALS/AVG and get a CATOBAR carrier in the future.
 
Why not?
It's marginally bigger than the INS Vikramaditya, and larger than the INS Vikrant, both STOBAR carriers which fly off the Mig-29 and are mooted for the Rafale M possibly in the pipeline.
Both those aircraft are 24 ton at MTOW.
Granted, they are a bit smaller and lighter than the projected KAAN, but both a possible naval KAAN and this carrier are still in their early phases.
I can't imagine the French selling Rafale to Turkey.
 
totally right with you as I can't imagine Rafale or Mig 29 on that future carrier; was replying to kaiserbill!
 
Just noticed this thread. There is an EW version of the Hurjet planned? I am surprised
I also had to chuckle a bit at how they translated the Kizilelma, a bit too literally.
Very interested how they proceed with this as there are a number of flat decks (under 30,000 tons) that these aircraft could be utilize on
 
Just noticed this thread. There is an EW version of the Hurjet planned? I am surprised
Not yet planned but it seems the Navy at least envisages it...or at least they're planning to carry pods, without carrying out internal changes that a Growler/J-15D style, more mission-dedicated aircraft usually demands.

I think the main reason why they pursue the Hurjet is, aside from lower per unit cost, is because it's a double seater and has serious potential to command loyal wingman(s/men?) and is also easier to maintain and occupies less room in an AC.

It's not like Turkey's located at the East China Sea or wherever that demands a naval aircraft to be stealth and also have long legs(i.e. Kaan); so Hurjets will do just fine in their intended role

I also had to chuckle a bit at how they translated the Kizilelma, a bit too literally.
That's machine translation, the original article is obviously in Turkish :)
 
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Not yet planned but it seems the Navy at least envisages it...or at least they're planning to carry pods, without carrying out internal changes that a Growler/J-15D style, more mission-dedicated aircraft usually demands.

I think the main reason why they pursue the Hurjet is, aside from lower per unit cost, is because it's a double seater and has serious potential to command loyal wingman(s/men?) and is also easier to maintain and occupies less room in an AC.

It's not like Turkey's located at the East China Sea or wherever that demands a naval aircraft to be stealth and also have long legs; so Hurjets will do just fine in their intended role


That's machine translation, the original article is obviously in Turkish :)

good point, I think in the Med and Black Sea, where range is not as important, the Hurjet's size wouldnt be a big issue. It also is an advantage on smaller ships too.

on Kizilelma.. i dont really know Turkish.. but I did pick up bits of Kyrgyz when I was in that country..
so i figured it was red apple, since in Kyrgyz its Kyzyl Alma. very similar to Turkish :)
 
on Kizilelma.. i dont really know Turkish.. but I did pick up bits of Kyrgyz when I was in that country..
so i figured it was red apple, since in Kyrgyz its Kyzyl Alma. very similar to Turkish :)
It has the same roots ;)
 
good point, I think in the Med and Black Sea, where range is not as important, the Hurjet's size wouldnt be a big issue. It also is an advantage on smaller ships too.

on Kizilelma.. i dont really know Turkish.. but I did pick up bits of Kyrgyz when I was in that country..
so i figured it was red apple, since in Kyrgyz its Kyzyl Alma. very similar to Turkish :)
You are indeed right. The Turkic languages save for Chuvash and also Yakut, Dolgan and Khalaj to some extent are so closely related that speakers of each can pick them up by simply spending a few weeks in each other's native regions. The native languages of a Turk from İstanbul, a Tatar from Kazan and an Uyghur from Ürümči are as closely related to each other than Spanish, Portuguese and Italian, Dutch, German and Low Saxon, Polish, Russian and Slovene or Finnish, Estonian and Karelian, to give some examples. The closeness of the Turkic languages and peoples is something that Turkey's foreign police has been using to good effect for about a century and whose usage might well increase even further in the future. I would not be surprised to see the Kızılelma in service in many Central Asian countries in the future, but for obvious reasons the carrier version will not be an export hit amongst other Turkic nations.
 
The native languages of a Turk from İstanbul, a Tatar from Kazan and an Uyghur from Ürümči are as closely related to each other than Spanish, Portuguese and Italian, Dutch, German and Low Saxon, Polish, Russian and Slovene or Finnish, Estonian and Karelian, to give some examples.
I always found it interesting that Uyghur Turks who haven't had any contact to Anatolian Turks in the past can easily learn Turkish. I've had the acquaintance of two Uyghurs a while back and the fact that they spoke Turkish so amazingly for foreigners truly shocked me.

But the Turkish that Anatolian Turks speak has been greatly influenced by Arabic, Farsi and French. In comparison Turkic people from Central Asia speak more of a "raw" language, AFAICS. Maybe that might've changed in the past with the influences of Russian or the modern Turkish, I don't know. But the closest one is obviously Azerbaijani Turkish. After spending a couple of hours together, you can perfectly interact with them like you're old pals who grew up in the same neighbourhood.
 
Private News/ The National Aircraft Carrier Project Is Moving at a Full Speed
⭕️The National Aircraft Carrier, whose full length is 285m, width is 72m, draught is 10.1m and displacement is planned as 60,000 tons, will be equipped with COGAG type Main Propulsion system, which will consist of 4 LM2500 Series Gas Turbines. STOBAR (i.e. ramp takeoff and rope capture system) will have an aircraft takeoff/landing system The National Aircraft Carrier will be able to reach speeds of 25 knots without restrictions and will have a cruising range of 10,000 nautical miles without refueling.
⭕️The purchase of technical support from a foreign company for the National Aircraft Carrier, which will be completely designed by the Design Project Office Directorate in Turkey and built with the labor of Turkish engineers and workers at the Istanbul Shipyard Command, has not been planned.
⭕️There will be 2 take-off (yellow) and 1 landing runway and 3 running paths on the National Aircraft Carrier, which will increase the deterrence and effectiveness of the Turkish Navy.
⭕️ Studies are being carried out to enable HÜRJET, ANKA-III, KIZILELMA and BAYRAKTAR TB3 SIHAS to operate without restrictions on the National Aircraft Carrier, which can carry a total of 50 aircraft, 20 of which are on the flight deck and 30 in the hangar section (it was pointed out that this number may increase even more).
⭕️The National Aircraft Carrier will not have a catapult/catapult system in the first stage, as there is still no national/domestic capability in this area, but a Modular Ramp System will be included in the ship design, and if domestic catapult/catapult production is possible in the future, this modular ramp will be dismantled, the flight runway / deck will be converted into a flat structure, and the catapult/catapult system can be integrated into the ship. For this purpose, a place has also been reserved for catapult / catapult in the interior layout design of the National Aircraft Carrier in case it is put in the future.


View: https://twitter.com/DefenceTurkey/status/1783133058704503152?s=19
 

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The take-off positions are really interesting, it seems they really did the math quite early for MTOW. Obviously they don't need to have a simultaneous take off/landing capability like the American/Chinese/French CVNs so even though there could be improvements made; I like what I' seeing.
 
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Turkish Navy Unveils the Aircraft Carrier Programme

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Following its reveal, TurDef visited the Turkish Navy Design Project Office (DPO) to learn about the latest updates on the aircraft carrier project. As TCG ANADOLU (L 400) is on its way to becoming capable of operating UCAVs, with the Bayraktar TB3 UCAV set to take off from the platform this year, the Turkish MoD has unveiled the conceptual design of the aircraft carrier to follow. The officials have stated on multiple occasions that they want to build an aircraft carrier larger than TCG ANADOLU (L 400). If a combatant naval aviation wing is a goal, an aircraft carrier that can smoothly operate dedicated combat aircraft is needed. TurDef learned about the latest developments in the project during a visit to the Turkish Navy’s Design Project Office.

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DPO is responsible for designing and simulating other naval projects like the MİLGEM and TF2000 destroyers with its capabilities. The carrier’s technical specifications were unveiled on various occasions. There aren’t any changes, with a length of 285 meters and a displacement of 60000 tonnes. The carrier will have Combined Gas Turbine and Gas Turbine (COGAG) propulsion to provide an uninterrupted maximum speed of 25 knots. The Design Project Office is considering having four LM2500 gas turbine engines, which are used on MİLGEM warships and DİMDEG logistic support ships, with onboard maintenance capabilities. Work on the design for the propulsion system is ongoing.
Additionally, CFD analyses for the lower hull are being made, particularly for the bulbes bow geometry. While the range is limited compared to nuclear propulsion seen on large-sized aircraft carriers like the U.S.’s Gerald R. Ford class and French Charles de Gaulle, COGAG is easier to develop and maintain. Not only is the Turkish Navy familiar with these gas turbines, but aircraft carriers with nuclear propulsion are also known to have lengthy and costly maintenance processes for their reactors.
The defensive armament consists of four CIWS, which appear to be GÖKDENİZ 35 mm CIWS of ASELSAN. It will have a 32-cell MİDLAS as VLS on the ship’s starboard. With its multi-faceted configuration, the main radar will likely be developed from the ÇAFRAD suite intended for TF-2000 destroyers.
The updated design has a more refined flight deck with an angled landing runway and two take-off runways for STOBAR operation. However, the officials stated that the flight deck design is being designed to be modular to allow for the installation of a catapult in the future. If this is achieved, it will be the first time a carrier has been designed in such a way. STOBAR is observed in Russian, Indian and Chinese aircraft carriers. As there isn’t a costly catapult, a runway with a curve on its end provides the short take-off. This directs the thrust from the engine upwards to support the lift from the wings till the aircraft reaches the needed speed for transition to level flight. As the simplest and cheapest solution, the carrier is planned to operate on the Short Take-off But Arrested Recovery (STOBAR) principle. The updated design aircraft were observed to have HÜRJET Light Combat Aircraft, KIZILELMA Unmanned Combat Aircraft, and Bayraktar TB3 UCAV. The officials also state that ANKA-3 is being worked on.

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However, KAAN fighter jets are planned for the next phase. KIZILELMA, an unmanned combat aircraft with a low-observable design, has the potential to conduct high-risk missions without losing pilots. Additionally, thanks to onboard radar and electro-optics, the aircraft can act as a loyal wingman to manned aircraft by both carrying weapons and extending situational awareness.
Navalised HÜRJET, while not to be taken as a full-sized carrier-based fighter, can still perform air-to-air and air-to-surface missions with a loadout similar to KIZILELMA in the combat configuration. The design’s background as an advanced trainer also eliminates the need to develop a new carrier-based trainer.
ANKA-3, with low observability and longer endurance than KIZILELMA, is likely to have one or more of the planned missions onboard the aircraft carrier. The first ones are the initially announced missions like Deep Strike, ISR, and EW. The other mission, as reported by TRT News, is acting as a tanker for other aircraft. As full-sized tankers can’t always be near an aircraft carrier, ANKA-3 can fill this gap as a stealthy refuelling platform, much like the USN’s future unmanned tanker MQ-25. Turkish Aerospace (TUSAŞ) develops the Autonomous Wingman Concept (OKU) for ANKA-3, which reminds the loyal wingman concept. Aside from combat aircraft, Bayraktar TB3’s demonstrated long endurance of 32 hours and long range can provide a persistent ISR capability lacking by combat aircraft. Adding other sensors like SAR, AESA radar, and sonobuoys listed by Baykar can also open new possibilities.
To answer the question of how many aircraft would be carried if said aircraft were onboard, an infographic about the very subject points out 50 aircraft in total (30 in the hangar and 20 on deck).

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An important portion of this number is likely comprised of Bayraktar TB3 UCAVs, and a few helicopters are guaranteed to be included. DPO is continually in talks with Baykar and TUSAŞ to develop their respective aircraft variants capable of operating from the carrier. When everything is summed up, the Turkish aircraft carrier is a pioneering design incorporating a hybrid manned-unmanned solution. Its modular design makes provision for CATOBAR operation. The ship can act as a power projection asset capable of conducting various missions with diverse aircraft options. The Turkish aircraft carrier is also a feat on DPO’s part in terms of engineering, with all its complexity, and the first in designing a carrier considered. An advantage of having a department of the Turkish Navy conduct the design lies in the fact that lowered bureaucracy traffic allows for smoother communication between the Navy and partnered firms.

https://turdef.com/article/turkish-navy-unveils-the-aircraft-carrier-programme
 
Turkish Navy Unveils the Aircraft Carrier Programme

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Following its reveal, TurDef visited the Turkish Navy Design Project Office (DPO) to learn about the latest updates on the aircraft carrier project. As TCG ANADOLU (L 400) is on its way to becoming capable of operating UCAVs, with the Bayraktar TB3 UCAV set to take off from the platform this year, the Turkish MoD has unveiled the conceptual design of the aircraft carrier to follow. The officials have stated on multiple occasions that they want to build an aircraft carrier larger than TCG ANADOLU (L 400). If a combatant naval aviation wing is a goal, an aircraft carrier that can smoothly operate dedicated combat aircraft is needed. TurDef learned about the latest developments in the project during a visit to the Turkish Navy’s Design Project Office.

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DPO is responsible for designing and simulating other naval projects like the MİLGEM and TF2000 destroyers with its capabilities. The carrier’s technical specifications were unveiled on various occasions. There aren’t any changes, with a length of 285 meters and a displacement of 60000 tonnes. The carrier will have Combined Gas Turbine and Gas Turbine (COGAG) propulsion to provide an uninterrupted maximum speed of 25 knots. The Design Project Office is considering having four LM2500 gas turbine engines, which are used on MİLGEM warships and DİMDEG logistic support ships, with onboard maintenance capabilities. Work on the design for the propulsion system is ongoing.
Additionally, CFD analyses for the lower hull are being made, particularly for the bulbes bow geometry. While the range is limited compared to nuclear propulsion seen on large-sized aircraft carriers like the U.S.’s Gerald R. Ford class and French Charles de Gaulle, COGAG is easier to develop and maintain. Not only is the Turkish Navy familiar with these gas turbines, but aircraft carriers with nuclear propulsion are also known to have lengthy and costly maintenance processes for their reactors.
The defensive armament consists of four CIWS, which appear to be GÖKDENİZ 35 mm CIWS of ASELSAN. It will have a 32-cell MİDLAS as VLS on the ship’s starboard. With its multi-faceted configuration, the main radar will likely be developed from the ÇAFRAD suite intended for TF-2000 destroyers.
The updated design has a more refined flight deck with an angled landing runway and two take-off runways for STOBAR operation. However, the officials stated that the flight deck design is being designed to be modular to allow for the installation of a catapult in the future. If this is achieved, it will be the first time a carrier has been designed in such a way. STOBAR is observed in Russian, Indian and Chinese aircraft carriers. As there isn’t a costly catapult, a runway with a curve on its end provides the short take-off. This directs the thrust from the engine upwards to support the lift from the wings till the aircraft reaches the needed speed for transition to level flight. As the simplest and cheapest solution, the carrier is planned to operate on the Short Take-off But Arrested Recovery (STOBAR) principle. The updated design aircraft were observed to have HÜRJET Light Combat Aircraft, KIZILELMA Unmanned Combat Aircraft, and Bayraktar TB3 UCAV. The officials also state that ANKA-3 is being worked on.

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However, KAAN fighter jets are planned for the next phase. KIZILELMA, an unmanned combat aircraft with a low-observable design, has the potential to conduct high-risk missions without losing pilots. Additionally, thanks to onboard radar and electro-optics, the aircraft can act as a loyal wingman to manned aircraft by both carrying weapons and extending situational awareness.
Navalised HÜRJET, while not to be taken as a full-sized carrier-based fighter, can still perform air-to-air and air-to-surface missions with a loadout similar to KIZILELMA in the combat configuration. The design’s background as an advanced trainer also eliminates the need to develop a new carrier-based trainer.
ANKA-3, with low observability and longer endurance than KIZILELMA, is likely to have one or more of the planned missions onboard the aircraft carrier. The first ones are the initially announced missions like Deep Strike, ISR, and EW. The other mission, as reported by TRT News, is acting as a tanker for other aircraft. As full-sized tankers can’t always be near an aircraft carrier, ANKA-3 can fill this gap as a stealthy refuelling platform, much like the USN’s future unmanned tanker MQ-25. Turkish Aerospace (TUSAŞ) develops the Autonomous Wingman Concept (OKU) for ANKA-3, which reminds the loyal wingman concept. Aside from combat aircraft, Bayraktar TB3’s demonstrated long endurance of 32 hours and long range can provide a persistent ISR capability lacking by combat aircraft. Adding other sensors like SAR, AESA radar, and sonobuoys listed by Baykar can also open new possibilities.
To answer the question of how many aircraft would be carried if said aircraft were onboard, an infographic about the very subject points out 50 aircraft in total (30 in the hangar and 20 on deck).

View attachment 726729

An important portion of this number is likely comprised of Bayraktar TB3 UCAVs, and a few helicopters are guaranteed to be included. DPO is continually in talks with Baykar and TUSAŞ to develop their respective aircraft variants capable of operating from the carrier. When everything is summed up, the Turkish aircraft carrier is a pioneering design incorporating a hybrid manned-unmanned solution. Its modular design makes provision for CATOBAR operation. The ship can act as a power projection asset capable of conducting various missions with diverse aircraft options. The Turkish aircraft carrier is also a feat on DPO’s part in terms of engineering, with all its complexity, and the first in designing a carrier considered. An advantage of having a department of the Turkish Navy conduct the design lies in the fact that lowered bureaucracy traffic allows for smoother communication between the Navy and partnered firms.

https://turdef.com/article/turkish-navy-unveils-the-aircraft-carrier-programme

Wow, It's reportedly envisaged to have a 32 cell MIDLAS VLS, although I only see 8 tubes on the deck, did they mean quadpacked missiles by 32 cells? (8x4 Hisar D)

The defensive armament consists of four CIWS, which appear to be GÖKDENİZ 35 mm CIWS of ASELSAN. It will have a 32-cell MİDLAS as VLS on the ship’s starboard. With its multi-faceted configuration, the main radar will likely be developed from the ÇAFRAD suite intended for TF-2000 destroyers

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To answer the question of how many aircraft would be carried if said aircraft were onboard, an infographic about the very subject points out 50 aircraft in total (30 in the hangar and 20 on deck).

ANKA-3, with low observability and longer endurance than KIZILELMA, is likely to have one or more of the planned missions onboard the aircraft carrier. The first ones are the initially announced missions like Deep Strike, ISR, and EW. The other mission, as reported by TRT News, is acting as a tanker for other aircraft. As full-sized tankers can’t always be near an aircraft carrier, ANKA-3 can fill this gap as a stealthy refuelling platform, much like the USN’s future unmanned tanker MQ-25. Turkish Aerospace (TUSAŞ) develops the Autonomous Wingman Concept (OKU) for ANKA-3
DPO is continually in talks with Baykar and TUSAŞ to develop their respective aircraft variants capable of operating from the carrier. When everything is summed up, the Turkish aircraft carrier is a pioneering design incorporating a hybrid manned-unmanned solution. Its modular design makes provision for CATOBAR operation.
 
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The take-off positions are really interesting, it seems they really did the math quite early for MTOW. Obviously they don't need to have a simultaneous take off/landing capability like the American/Chinese/French CVNs so even though there could be improvements made; I like what I' seeing.
Chinese doesn't have CVN yet, French CVN doesn't have simultaneous take off/landing capability due to flight deck restriction
 
Overall, the design is about the same scale as the big “twin tramline” LHA(R) concept that was current in 2004, albeit without the strange deck layout and deck well. I’m guessing 60,000 tons is a standard displacement. The 2004 concept was capable of 22 knots on 56MW, so with a COGAG setup similar to the smaller Indian Vikrant, 25 knots with 88MW is doable even at full load displacement. The Indians produced their own massive gearbox, that’s not unobtainable for Turkey, and procuring arrester gear is probably feasible as well. Before anyone screams too loudly about the low speed, I’d point out that the primary strike platform is a canard delta UAV with an afterburner.

Overall, the concept of a Turkish aircraft carrier of this scale is within the real of possibility. Turkey has a growing industrial base. I’m not about to ponder the policy or financial aspects, though.
 
Chinese doesn't have CVN yet, French CVN doesn't have simultaneous take off/landing capability due to flight deck restriction
It's coming within this decade though, there are credible rumors that it's design is probably already frozen and the construction might start within a year or two. Considering prior steps taken by PLAN and the Jiangnan shipyard, it is to be expected.
 
It's coming within this decade though, there are credible rumors that it's design is probably already frozen and the construction might start within a year or two. Considering prior steps taken by PLAN and the Jiangnan shipyard, it is to be expected.
Some suggested the PLAN had started to design CVN since the early 2000s, but unless the 003 becomes more mature it will take longer time for them to frozen the design and start construction. Contrary to some belief I would suggest 004 is a de-bugged 003, rather than CVN. Perhaps it shall appear together with Turkish CV.
 
Some suggested the PLAN had started to design CVN since the early 2000s, but unless the 003 becomes more mature it will take longer time for them to frozen the design and start construction. Contrary to some belief I would suggest 004 is a de-bugged 003, rather than CVN. Perhaps it shall appear together with Turkish CV.
003's design was already frozen by 2016, but they'd decided to switch from steam to electromagnetic catapults which required some redesign. They also built new production halls, meaning they can build the blocks under cover without us noticing anything. Also as I've mentioned they design two carriers at the same time with gradual advancements between the designs.
 
003's design was already frozen by 2016, but they'd decided to switch from steam to electromagnetic catapults which required some redesign. They also built new production halls, meaning they can build the blocks under cover without us noticing anything. Also as I've mentioned they design two carriers at the same time with gradual advancements between the designs.
Not really, there are quite a few of new technology they are planning to use on the 003, and it will serve as both a technology demonstrator and operational CV. If you are familiar with PLAN developments you should know that they are famous for play safe in new design.

Referring to big production halls, every major shipyards are building them as it will be weather-proof, thus reducing the delays in production due to weather, and with proper lighting and ventilation workers can operate 24/7 inside (Unions: what?)
 

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