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The skies overhead to be filled with drones (CONUS)

Grey Havoc

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http://news.yahoo.com/ap-exclusive-drone-sightings-dramatically-082903678--politics.html
 

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Jemiba said:
... In the sum, we'll probably see quite a lot of years passing by, before "the sky above is filled with drones" !
Yes, in a way I already stand corrected, I think. Somehow the sky already is filled with drones, but those
drones aren't the pizza/amazo/urgent drugs delivery services, but those relatively, or even really cheap
examples from RC model shops and super markets. The danger such drones are presenting, against what
was feared before, seems to comparable to that of laser pointers, used for blinding pilots, against manpads.
Not to be misunderstood, both dangers are unacceptable, but thinking of the way, political decisions often
are made, I see the vague possibilty, that incidents with such toys may be regarded as "terror attacks"
quite quickly .... if someone thinks, that it answers his purpose !
Technological development has outpaced the wisdom of legislative power and honestly, I wouldn't have
expected such cute thingies already now for that price, too (no promotion intended, other manufacturers
have quite similar things).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4pwa4FS__4
 

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Again, faster, than I would have expected ... :mad:

From the link given by Grey Havoc in the last post:
"This sets a precedent that'll allow the FAA to fine anyone for flying a drone. This is an irrationally
broad ruling, and while it's going to be important to set guidelines for drones, just making them
straight-up illegal is not the right call."

Probably right, but we should bear in mind, how many percent of all people are really interested
in RC-drones, or RC-flying in general. And how many people probably are feeling annoyed by such buzzing
thingies, or even just by the idea, that something like that could fly nearby ... and even take photos !
And the rest is as disinterested and apathetic, as always. Who cares ?
How loud would the outcry be, if more or less all RC-flying would be prohibited ? Moment please,
I'll just switch on my deaf-aid ! ::)
 

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And this is only going to throw fuel on the fire, I fear: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/near-collisions-between-drones-airliners-surge-new-faa-reports-show/2014/11/26/9a8c1716-758c-11e4-bd1b-03009bd3e984_story.html

Especially since it smells like a 'planted' story.
 

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/faa-drone-approvals-bedeviled-by-warnings-conflict-internal-e-mails-show/2014/12/21/69d8a07a-86c2-11e4-a702-fa31ff4ae98e_story.html
 

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http://www.cbsnews.com/news/homeland-security-warns-drones-could-be-used-in-attacks/

Probably just a variation on the usual budgetary/turf related hype, given that the potential for drones to be used in terror and 'deniable' state sponsored attacks has been known for ages.
 

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A good example to my opinion, how (private) drones are dealt with in the media is the report
about a " drone, that crashed to the ground, just about 2 meters from German chancellor Angela
Merkel during a pre-election party in Dresden. She wasn't hurt by that incident ..."
Launched by a big German broadcasting station, this report was copied by several other
stations and newspapers, sometimes even with some additional embroidery.
You can see that "attack" in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQOScWiIQ60
 

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/26/first-state-legalizes-armed-drones-for-cops-thanks-to-a-lobbyist.html
 

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Jemiba said:
A good example to my opinion, how (private) drones are dealt with in the media is the report
about a " drone, that crashed to the ground, just about 2 meters from German chancellor Angela
Merkel during a pre-election party in Dresden. She wasn't hurt by that incident ..."
Launched by a big German broadcasting station, this report was copied by several other
stations and newspapers, sometimes even with some additional embroidery.
You can see that "attack" in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQOScWiIQ60
While it was hardly an attack, it does serve to demonstrate how easily someone could build a weaponised quadcopter (eg, fit it with a ball-bearing bomb) and fly it right up to the leader of a G8 nation.
 

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Dragon029 said:
....how easily someone could build a weaponised quadcopter (eg, fit it with a ball-bearing bomb)
and fly it right up to the leader of a G8 nation.
Obviously true in that case, but AFAIK already not during the G7 summit this year in Elmau/Bavaria.
And my point was, how principally harmless incidents are often talked up in the media, especially
if they are related to drones.
 

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http://www.theverge.com/2015/8/27/9210047/drone-exemption-333-faa-hot-air-balloon-license
 

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New a mannend drone


One Pilot and 54 Motors from Dornes


http://youtu.be/t5JgnMJzCtQ
 

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http://www.cnbc.com/2015/09/18/lethal-drones-are-the-industrys-latest-headache.html
 

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Amazon has updated their delivery drone design:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXo_d6tNWuY
 

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Darn. I was hoping it would look like a combination of the SkyCrane and the X-22.
 

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USA Today article on the announcement: http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/11/29/amazon-unveils-new-prime-air-drone-prototypes/76540004/
 

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http://www.popsci.com/teen-puts-flamethrower-on-drone-gets-sponsor

Must have for Christmas
 

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Ah, for a yaw glitch coupled with a propellant valve failure, and problem solved (now THAT would be choice youtube material). One can only dream.

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http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/dec/14/drone-federal-aviation-administration-register-license-uav

http://wap.engadget.com/2015/12/14/us-drone-operators-must-register-with-the-faa-by-february/
 

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Grey Havoc said:
http://gizmodo.com/report-the-faas-drone-registry-will-be-public-includin-1748793059
But according to a report from Forbes, all those names and addresses will eventually be publicly available.
Not surprisingly, since it's using the same database as the N-reg system. The Amazon drones are already in there, using some ex-PanAm registrations:

http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=386PA

Aircraft pilots wishing to remain anonymous already use a variety of techniques when registering, including forming a Trust or registering a company at a forwarding address. Actually the latter is probably a good idea in general, since authorities generally handle complaints against companies rather differently than individuals ( seldom kick-down company doors at 05:00, for example ).
 

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Wedge-tailed eagle takes down drone flying over West Australian wheat farm. Wedge-tailed Eagles are well known for their aggressive defence of "their" airspace, so it's no surprise that it decided to take on a drone. I grew up near to one of the only successfully domesticated Wedge-tailed Eagles. The owners tried to return it to the wild three times. The first two times the bloody thing followed them home. The third time, they took it right into the heart of the continent before releasing it. I still remember seeing this huge bird perched on the chimney across the road being attacked by Magpies which hated it's presence... B)
 

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https://www.ft.com/content/0dfd64ac-3c8e-11ea-b232-000f4477fbca

Plans for the commercial rollout of drones in the US have run into trouble as a powerful coalition of groups has united to oppose a key set of proposals by the country’s aviation regulator. The plans from the Federal Aviation Administration, which would force drone flyers to allow their aircraft to be identified remotely, are intended to ensure that commercial flights by companies such as Amazon can operate alongside amateur machines. However, groups including drone makers and amateur model aircraft enthusiasts have voiced their opposition, arguing that the regulations would be unnecessarily onerous. Arguments over drone identification have been a long-running obstacle to commercial flying, and many in the industry believe the widespread opposition to the FAA’s latest proposals is likely to lead to further turbulence.
 

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Drones vs Lawyers? I bet on the latter. The claims for property and human damage against users will flood in.
 

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