Sukhoi assault transport project of 1947

[hesham]

Hi,

has anyone more info about this Sukhoi assault transport
aircraft project of 1947 ?.

 

[toura]

HI hesham
Assault transport - tricycle landing gear but the aircraft
could be equiped with possible 6 additional wheels under
the fuselage for operations on unprepaerd runways.
armement 3 posts: above and bellow and a remote controled 12.7 m/m
machine gun on the lower forward fuselage.
2 klimov vk2 engines
freight compartment load armoread cars with loading hoists -
side opening for cargo.
crew 3 - pilot navigator and gunner
Nothing more.....no specification !
from "OKB SUKHOI. History of the design bureau"
Bye

 

[borovik]

Year : 1946 (summer).

engine : 2 ASh-83 / ASh-73
span : 34 m
lenght : 20,640m
height : 6,5 m

performence:

max speed :415km/h
cruise :318km/h
landing sp. :119km/h


ceiling. 8.000m

armament : top /SEB-3/ 2x20mm cannon
tail /NU/ 2x 12.7 mm BT

weight : empty- 12,850 kg
loaded-26,700 kg

 

[borovik]

Десантно-грузовой самолет - Assault transport
Year : 1947 (august)
engine : 2 VK-2 of 4200hp
span : 35,30 m
ar.wing : 125,4m2
lenght : 23m
performence:

max speed :580km/h (H=8000m)
ceiling. 11,800m

armament : top /SEB-3/ 2x20-23mm cannon
tail 2x 20 mm
forw. 1x 20mm

weight : empty- 14,104 kg
loaded-29,515 kg
Vladimir Proklov - "Postwar piston aircraft OKB P.Sukhoi - Transport Aircraft"
'Aviatsiya i kosmonavtika' - 11/2007

 

[Pioneer]

Very interesting!
Never heard of Sukhoi toying with transport aircraft before!

Thanks once again for posting subject and some great drawings/artist work

Regards
Pioneer

 

[hesham]

Excellent work my dear Borovik,

thank you very much,and in old series of Sukhoi,there is
the Su-14 and Su-16 were missing,was there any relationship
to those projects ?.

 

[toura]

hi HESHAM
The "su 14" is perhaps a armored ground attack aircraft
with controlled cannon armement ????
1948 designation "N" ?............
I have also the "i 250 jet" but I know nothing
and an escort figther project ???
All this in the same period
Bye

 

[toura]

THANKS BOROVIK
your assault transport is VERY interesting
THANKS AGAIN. bYE

 

[toura]

Hi all
escort figther :
this aircraft had been developed in 1948 and was intended for escorting
long range bombers such as the tu4.
it was proposedto use a VK-2turbojet which had beenunder development
at the Klimov design bureau. The aircraft's predited range was approximately
5000 km.....nothing more
from"OKB Sukhoi a history of the design bureau"

 

[toura]

IT's still me
On the same book I see another twin engined transport
2 RD 500 jet engines for passengers carriage with ten
soft seats ???
Bye

 

[redstar72]

Hi all!
Su-14 attack aircraft was discussed at http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,9238.0/all.html, and the escort fighter at http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10065.0.html.
I don't know any other I-250 excepting well-known Mikoyan motorjet fighter (MiG-13). Its Sukhoi competitor was Su-5 (I-107).

 

[toura]

My dear redstar
Yes !!! I remenber i've see this but I don't know where !
Thank you very much
Bye

 

[borovik]

Hi all!
Thanks for the kind comments, but thank first of all we have to Victor Proklov's (director of the museum Sukhoi Design Bureau), for its publications and the opportunity to open for us new birds with brand Su.

.......... Su-16 -

among the few known projects OKB Sukhoi (more than a decade, the period of WWII and about the same after the war - 50th), an aircraft with the designation Su-16 I have not yet met.
Besides the projects mentioned in the source referred to by toura were:
- Fighter escort with 2 ASh-73 and the pressurized cabin;
- The fighter with the MB-103;
- Armored attack with M-251;
- Front-line bomber with 2 ASh-73;
- Passenger plane with 2 ASh-82 and others ...
Potentially, some of them could carry this designation. While it is not known.

 

[hesham]

Thank you my dear Borovik very very much,

and first please do you have a drawings for them?,second,
there is also the Su-10 in the new series it was also a four
engined jet bomber project,of course it was not related to
the old series Su-10,and for this info,you can see the double
Su-10 in this site;

http://www.aviation.ru/Su/

 

[toura]

hi Hesham
look at
http://airwar.ru/enc/bomber/su10.html
You have three variants of the su 10
Bye

 

[redstar72]

Hi all!
I am confused with this "new" Su-10. As far as I know, after 1953 Sukhoi OKB didn't work on any bombers, excepting the well-known "Mach 3" T-4 (Aircraft "100") and T-4MS ("200") project. Maybe they mean T-4 under "new" Su-10? But I never heard this name referred to it.

 

[toura]

Hi Redstar
The SU 10 of wicht you could see 3 variants below is a studie
dated 1946. A proto was ended in 1948 and the program was cancel
soon after !
Bye

 

[redstar72]

Thanks toura but I know this .

 

[hesham]

Hi all!
Thanks for the kind comments, but thank first of all we have to Victor Proklov's (director of the museum Sukhoi Design Bureau), for its publications and the opportunity to open for us new birds with brand Su.

.......... Su-16 -

among the few known projects OKB Sukhoi (more than a decade, the period of WWII and about the same after the war - 50th), an aircraft with the designation Su-16 I have not yet met.
Besides the projects mentioned in the source referred to by toura were:
- Fighter escort with 2 ASh-73 and the pressurized cabin;
- The fighter with the MB-103;
- Armored attack with M-251;
- Front-line bomber with 2 ASh-73;
- Passenger plane with 2 ASh-82 and others ...
Potentially, some of them could carry this designation. While it is not known.

My dear Borovik,

and may be the Su-16 was this project;

two-seat escort fighter powered by one Klimov VK-2 engine.

source;

http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/68/

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ar&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/68/

 

[frank]

The one shown here?
http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,10065.0/highlight,tu+4+escort+sukhoi.html

Hi all!
Thanks for the kind comments, but thank first of all we have to Victor Proklov's (director of the museum Sukhoi Design Bureau), for its publications and the opportunity to open for us new birds with brand Su.

.......... Su-16 -

among the few known projects OKB Sukhoi (more than a decade, the period of WWII and about the same after the war - 50th), an aircraft with the designation Su-16 I have not yet met.
Besides the projects mentioned in the source referred to by toura were:
- Fighter escort with 2 ASh-73 and the pressurized cabin;
- The fighter with the MB-103;
- Armored attack with M-251;
- Front-line bomber with 2 ASh-73;
- Passenger plane with 2 ASh-82 and others ...
Potentially, some of them could carry this designation. While it is not known.

My dear Borovik,

and may be the Su-16 was this project;

two-seat escort fighter powered by one Klimov VK-2 engine.

source;

http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/68/

http://translate.google.com/translate?js=n&prev=_t&hl=ar&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.militaryparitet.com/nomen/russia/avia/data/ic_nomenrussiaavia/68/

 

[borovik]

Unlikely. The army designation - the fighters (according to the order NKAP of 9 December 1940) are assigned odd numbers.

My dear Borovik,

and may be the Su-16 was this project;

two-seat escort fighter powered by one Klimov VK-2 engine.

: hesham on Yesterday at 12:55:14 pm