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It seems that the moving wingtip and multiple aileron technology is becoming/has become a part of Chinese design philosophy now.
It seems that the moving wingtip and multiple aileron technology is becoming/has become a part of Chinese design philosophy now.
It seem more advanced in production than we think , you don't fly demonstrator over a highway with a lot of people if you are not sure of your plane.
Indeed, they could have even forgone the ferry flight and trucked it to a more discrete location.They would have made a single flight out to a remote location for further testing if that was the case.
The fact that it was seen flying over a city is noteworthy, even referring to Chinese practices regarding public safety.
Informed speculation based on the flimsy evidence is fine when correctly presented as such. Analysis from current and former aerospace engineers and informed observers is interesting as are attempts to guess the dimensions and create 3D models.
Breathless fanboi posts along the lines of "this is going to be the stealthiest fighter EVAR and it probably has the bigliest radar" is not.
Yes, this isn't the only such post but more like the preverbial straw that broke the camel's back. The forum is starting to be overwhelmed at present with posts of uninformed speculation and wish fulfillment, often (but not exlcusively) from new users, cluttering out the interesting posts.
I don't see much option other than splitting the topic, so people can speculate away to their heart's content without cluttering the discussion.
Deleting messages triggers angry "you violated the first amendment" conversations.
Another image. Moving wingtips.
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But for how long will be the question getting asked siegecrosbow? I suppose that it will only be a matter of time before the first proper PLAAF squadrons get them.
You're looking at years before these things are in front-line service. For the PLAAF, for example, they'll undergo manufacturer's trials at their factories, as Blitzo mentioned. The next place we tend to see new aircraft is at CFTE at Xian-Yanliang. Then, they'll appear at Dingxin and Cangzhou - these aren't yet front-line units, but they are PLAAF units, used for things like weapons testing, tactics development, etc. Then they'll appear in front-line squadron service. Given that we have a pair of aircraft types only appearing very intermittently at their manufacturer's locations, they're likely very, very early in the development phase. Their first flights being in December is entirely possible, has that been implied in any way by Chinese sources? Regardless neither should be anywhere near operation by the PLAAF in trials units, let alone operational squadrons. I think the J-20 first flew in 2011 and first entered service with an operational squadron in 2019 (9 AB, Wuhu). A similar timeline is logical for the Chengdu aircraft; depending how much is evolutionary vs. revolutionary it could be a little bit quicker, but I wouldn't expect it to be drastically shorter (i.e. I could see 6 years to service, but not four). The SAC aircraft may require longer development if it is intended for CATOBAR naval use.
Unless there's a really, really abbreviated flight testing plan (quickly verify flight control laws, do weapons clearance, keep planes maneuver-restricted while the test pilots expand the flight envelope), there's no way the planes are less than 5 years away from IOC.But for how long will be the question getting asked siegecrosbow? I suppose that it will only be a matter of time before the first proper PLAAF squadrons get them.
I was very interested in the model of the Chinese Stealth 6th generation from this photo
Speed =/= thrust. It's more complicated than that.Three jet engine , top speed exceeds Mach 3
Highly unlikely. Goal is supercruise without sustaining it with afterburner, maybe at most Mach 2 supercruise.Three jet engine , top speed exceeds Mach 3? the speed of fighter more fast, more chance get rid of the pursuit of infrared air-to-air missiles, I think.
Unlikely. The inlets definitely do not agree with that. Mach 3 means needing adjustable inlets, and stealth means using spikes like the SR-71 Blackbirds. This has fixed inlets, which generally suggests a most-efficient speed in the Mach 1.3-1.8 range.Three jet engine , top speed exceeds Mach 3?
If you're radar-stealthy, it will be unlikely for anyone to get close enough to get an IR missile lock.the speed of fighter more fast, more chance get rid of the pursuit of infrared air-to-air missiles, I think.
Haven't seen any patents linked here for fixed inlets working across a super broad range of speeds.Unless they do something different with the inlets that we do not know about Scott Kenny.
Let me put a question mark here.If you're radar-stealthy, it will be unlikely for anyone to get close enough to get an IR missile lock.
Sure, but ending up in a WVR fight due to deliberate enemy action is not likely, either.Let me put a question mark here.
In a world where significant forces are stealthy and emitting is discouraged, ending up in a WVR fight is not unlikely.
I feel that, since this is "Sandboxx [...] speculating", this should go in the "General Discussion and Speculation" thread.
On a broader take, I hope that one day people can stop linking to his videos as if they have any sort of use.